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Hana Goto × Ayumi Ishida - "Watashi no Dekkai Hana"



Super deep cut, lol. Probably because her name is in it, but still. Seriously, though, she's not far away from being ready to debut, if not actually ready. Aside from her performance level -- which is pretty good -- I'm more impressed that she isn't overwhelmed by performing or talking with Daishi, and looks entirely at ease the whole time.
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As predicted, we have new kenshuusei! I updated the first post with all the info.
They were revealed during the Hello!Dream episode.

The fact they are revealing the kenshuusei ZBEFORE announcing the results of the Morning Musume audition makes me wonder if they didn't find anyone? It's very unlike them to hold back any type of information like that considering how vocal they were in the past about it all. They had a few times already where they could have revealed information. Or even lack of information.

Will there be a late stage addition after the annual kenshuusei test? (The three new members will all be taking part.)
The whole audition was confusing for me. :confused: I mean I knew the whole result was new blood for kenshuusei, but at the same time. Throw your fans a bone UF! Just say you didn't find anyone. Back to the drawing board, or something.

Anyway, new members. 3 girls.

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Kawano Soara (河野空愛) October 6th, 2006 (16) [Fukuoka]
Makino Toa (牧野永愛) December 26th, 2009 (13) [Osaka]
Hayashi Niina (林仁愛) June 10th, 2011 (11) [Aichi] <Now youngest member in H!P


All I can say, by looks alone. Niina would be a shoe in for Morning Musume. She's got the Masaki/Kago look. (But maybe I just have a type?) :hahaha: :ph34r: But she's still too young for me. Such a baby.
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If they pull that "sorry guys, but we just couldn't find a single applicant who was worthy of joining Morning Musume" routine again it tells me a couple of things: A) the KSS unit will be debuting as a new group at some point -- probably next year -- and B) Hana Goto will join that group. They could drop 2 or 3 of them into MM tomorrow and they'd be fine.
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I’m convinced it was all a ploy for more Kenshuusei. They didn’t really need new blood in Morning Musume. Not with Sakurai barely debuting. On the outside they just wanted to fill the void left by Kaga/Fuku. But on the inside they wanted more Kenshuusei spots to fill because they have this need of bloating themselves up with more groups than they can’t handle.
I feel like the truth will come out soon. Morning Musume are making a big radio announcement this week. Could be release related or it could be member related. It’s up in the air.
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My money is still on Hana and Mifu in MM.
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Some footage from NOT 2023 KSS Shindan Test. Not sure what this is from, but the KSS just did the lottery for the test order today.

1 BABY! Koi KNOCK OUT
• Karin Onoda
• Hinoha Yoshida
• Hana Goto

2 CRAZY ABOUT YOU
• Yulia Matsubara
• Hashida Honoka
• Hasumi Uemura
• Rena Kamimura

3 Last Kiss
• Murakoshi Ayana
• Mifu Kawashima
• Yukiho Shimoitani



"Last Kiss" is a hell of a song choice for a shinden test, lol! Attempting live harmonies was pretty gutsy on their part, too. They're pretty hit-and-miss, but the fact that they went for it is cool. Overall, though, this is a pretty good group of trainees.
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Hayashi Niina wasn't in the video.

The trainees pick their numbers for the Spring Test.

It's my favorite time of year for the kenshuusei.

They have to learn two songs. One is assigned and the other is a free song.

Assigned Songs
Swing Swing Paradise - Morning Musume. '22
Shall We Love? - Gomattou
Anata Nashi de wa Ikite Yukenai - Berryz Kobo
Koi wa Magnet - Country Girls
Nakenai ze... Kyoukan Sagi - ANGERME
Adrenaline Dame - Tsubaki Factory

Not very, solo songs, so I suspect some girls will struggle with that.

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Assigned Song
1. Yoshida Hinoha - Anata Nashi de wa Ikite Yukenai
2. Hayashi Niina - Adrenaline Dame
3. Makino Toa - Nakenai ze... Kyoukan Sagi
4. Shimoitani Yukiho - Shall We Love?
5. Kawano Soara - Swing Swing Paradise
6. Kawashima Mifu - Shall We Love?
7. Goto Hana - Anata Nashi de wa Ikite Yukenai
8. Kamimura Rena - Adrenaline Dame

Free Song
1. Yoshida Hinoha - Massara Blue Jeans (C-ute)
2. Kawano Soara - Koko ni Iruzee! (Morning Musume.) [A girl after my own heart.]
3. Kawashima Mifu - Kanashiki Heaven (C-ute) [Looking forward to hearing this.]
4. Shimoitani Yukiho - Adam to Eve no Dilemma (C-ute)
5. Hayashi Niina - Beat no Wakusei (Morning Musume. '21)
6. Goto Hana - Be Alive (Morning Musume.)
7. Makino Toa - Renai Revolution 21 (Morning Musume.)
8. Kamimura Rena - Ame no Naka no Kuchibue (Juice=Juice)

-Tell me these girls aren't trying to get into Morning Musume, without telling me, these girls are trying to get into Morning Musume.

A comment, after the spoilers.

I have no idea what UF is doing, holding out so long with the latest Morning Musume results so this is all speculation. But if they really DO use these tests to place girls into groups instead of holding proper auditions for them, I can see them placing a girl or two into the group (or in the KSS unit) if they feel like it, and they think a few of the girls are worthy.
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Generally speaking however they never chose the top performers for MM iirc. So I think if anything they're going to the new KSS group... or Anju when they refill after Takechan's grad.
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Hana Goto just murdered everyone in the Shinden Test. Mifu was really good, but Hana was the star.

EDIT: I predicted that Mifu would win Best Performer before it started, then thought Hana should win after the performances were done.

Mifu won, lol. Goto was runner-up, and there were no other awards. I wonder if Hana going with "Be Alive" for her free song hurt her since there's not really any performance beyond the vocal performance? Hana was the superior singer and looked more comfortable and confident overall, but Mifu's "Kanashiki Heaven" had a higher degree of difficulty, and she was really good.

Look out for Niina Hayashi, because she can sing. She's pretty stiff and awkward as a performer, but she's also a literal child who doesn't turn 12 until June. She could be a monster after a couple years of training.

Only one massive train-wreck this year, Toa Makino, who doesn't appear to have any natural talent beyond keeping her composure and seeming completely unaffected following two of the worst KSS performances I've ever seen. That's not the worst trait to have as a foundation, though. But yeah, Oof size Large.
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===Setlist for the KSS Test===

1. Irotoridori Nobi yo!! / KSS
MC
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2. Docchi? / Ogara Risa
3. Oh, Sunny Days! / Ogata Risa
4. Nantetatte I Love You / Miyamoto Karin
5. Jibun First / Miyamoto Karin
6. Yoridori ME DREAM / OCHA NORMA
7. Unmei CHACHACHACHA~N / OCHA NORMA
8. Koi no Crouching Start / OCHA NORMA
9. Daisuki Dakedo Tsukiaenai / KSS Unit '23
10. Onna de Chikyuu wa Mawatteru / KSS Unit '23
11. Arigata-Meiwaku Monogatari / Yoshida, Kawashima, Goto, Shimoitani, Kamimura
12. Kimi no Toujou / KSS (minus the newbies)
13. Tadashii Seishun tte Nan Darou / KSS (with the newbies)


2nd Place Winner: Goto
1st Place: Kawashima
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Guess that means Mifu and maybe Hana go to Morning. I can also see them putting Hana into Anju as a Take replacement, though.

...then again, Morning never gets the "best" KSS.
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Of the two, I think Mifu is the better fit for MM, but I'd love to see UF go big and add both of them. If they're planning to debut the new KSS Unit as a new group, though, it's possible that both will go there.

If that happens I think a couple of sleepers for MM are Hinoha Yoshida and Yukiho Shimoitani. Both are high-energy types who need work as singers, but are overall pretty good performers. In other words, straight out of MM central casting. I think Shimoitani will become a pretty good singer once she gets Big Group vocal training, too.
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JPope wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:07 am Look out for Niina Hayashi, because she can sing. She's pretty stiff and awkward as a performer, but she's also a literal child who doesn't turn 12 until June. She could be a monster after a couple years of training.
Here's Niina's "Beat no Wakusei"



She's definitely raw, but also strong and has pretty decent pitch. Niina is also one of the only KSS not named Goto or Mifu who was able to get through a solo without running out of steam.
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She already got me when she was able to hold the first few notes. Raw, definitely, but as you said there's lots of potential. Especially considering her age.
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Updated the first post.

Here is how the KSS stand now.

Matsubara Yuriya (松原ユリヤ) 28th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Onoda Karin (小野田華凛) 29th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Hashida Honoka (橋田歩果) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Murakoshi Ayana (村越彩菜) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Uemura Hasumi (植村葉純) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Yoshida Hinoha (吉田姫杷) 32nd Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Kawashima Mifu (川嶋美楓; joined Juice=Juice, May 2023) 32nd Gen
Gotou Hana (後藤花; joined Angerme, May 2023) 33rd Gen
Shimoitani Yukiho (下井谷幸穂; joined Angerme, May 2023) 34th Gen
Kamimura Rena (上村麗菜) 34th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’23)
Kawano Soara (河野空愛) 35th Gen Joined March 2023
Makino Toa (牧野永愛) 35th Gen
Hayashi Niina (林仁愛) 35th Gen


The H!P'23 Unit will debut next year as a H!P group. They are down to just three newbies.

I'm sure the MM audition will bring some in too. How many that is? That's still up for debate. But they are going to need a few to fill the ranks. I doubt Niina will be sitting long as a kensuusei.
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Huh, what now, I think NOW we're at the smallest roster of KSS yet, not counting the Unit here....only 3 left and it's the most recent batch.....I wonder if H!P is thinking of closing up the training program, perhaps? I mean it'll be strange watching these 3 move forward (though I bet they'll just toss them into the Unit if anything).
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I think part of UF's problem is that girls can go find any ol' idol group if they want to be an instant idol. Being a trainee requires a little more involvement. I'm not sure what the company is doing. If they are still requiring payment, or offsetting that with selling of their goods? Because if I had to PAY someone to work and they were selling stuff with MY image on it. I wouldn't think that was a fair deal. So not sure what's going on there.

But they DO need to do something if they want to continue to produce idols to Hello!Project standards.
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The Kenshuusei performance this weekend has been cancelled due to Onoda, Goto, Shimoitani, and Hayashi testing positive for COVID
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Why are Goto and Shimoitani still doing KSS events?
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JPope wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:35 pm Why are Goto and Shimoitani still doing KSS events?
I assume it may be because this KSS performance was announced before they were announced to join the groups as Kawashima is also supposed to perform as well. (Probably also because ANGERME is promoting the single without the new members, so might as well give the two something to do and Kawashima beginning activities in the Fall with Juice=Juice).

I guess Makino was also going to be absent due to schedule conflicts, so xD.
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===Setlist for Hello Pro Kenshuusei June 2023 Recital "Suzukure"===

Makino didn't perform due to test schedules

1. Special Genera~tion / ALL
2. Sekaiichi HAPPY na Otoko no Ko / ALL
MC
3. Umbrella / Shimoitani, Kamimura, Kawano, Hayashi
4. Zassou no Uta / Yoshida, Kawashima, Goto
5. Onna de Chikyuu wa Mawatteru / KSS Unit '23
6. Kioku no Meiro / KSS Unit '23
MC
7. Be Alive / Goto
8. Kanashiki Heaven / Kawashima
9. Koisuru Angel Heart / Yoshida, Kamimura, Kawano, Hayashi
10. Lovey Dovey / OCHA NORMA
11. Uchira no Jimoto no Chikyuu jan! / OCHA NORMA
12. Nandakanda Everyday! / OCHA NORMA
MC / KSS Unit '23 will start full-scale actitivies in August
13. Medatte Do Dance / KSS Unit, Yoshida, Kawashima, Kamimura
14. Say! Hello! / KSS Unit, Goto, Shimoitani
15. Omotesandou A5 / KSS Unit, Yoshida, Goto, Shimoitani
16. Crying / KSS Unit, Kawashima, Kamimura, Kawano, Hayashi
17. Jounetsu Sparkle / KSS
MC
18. Hello! Massara no Jibun / ALL
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===Setlist for Hello Pro Kenshuusei September 2023 Recital "Teriha"===

OCHA NORMA, KSS Unit '23, KSS

1. Shabondama / ALL
2. Onna no Sono / ALL
MC
3. Daisuki Dakedo Tsukiaenai / KSS Unit '23
4. Onna de Chikyuu wa Mawatteru / KSS Unit '23
5. Chokotto LOVE / Makino, Kawano, Hayashi
6. Shekenaare / OCHA NORMA
7. Ocha no ma Mahoroba Ikoinoba ~Showa mo Reiwa wa mo Watchawacha~ / OCHA NORMA
MC
8. Table Seki Aitetemo Counter Seki / Nakayama, Yonemura, Hashida, Uemura, Murakoshi, Matsubara, Onoda, Yoshida, Kamimura, Makino, Kawano, Hayashi
9. Uruwashi no Camellia / Hashida, Uemura, Murakoshi, Onoda, Yoshida, Kamimura, Kawano, Hayashi
10. Yacchae GO! GO! / KSS Unit '23, KSS
11. Yoridori ME DREAM / OCHA NORMA
12. SEXY BOY ~Soyokaze ni Yorisotte~ / KSS Unit '23
13. Otona no Tochuu / Hashida, Uemura, Murakoshi, Onoda, Yoshida, Kamimura, Kawano
14. Chotto Jousho Fuantei?...Natsu / OCHA NORMA
15. Date ja nai yo Uchi no Jinsei wa / Hashida, Uemura, Murakoshi, Onoda, Yoshida, Kamimura, Hayashi
MC
16. Nobishiro ~Beyond the World~ / ALL
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On Hello Dream today, H!P KSS Unit '23 announced the title of their new track, "CHO Chokotto Rock'n'Roll" (CHOちょこっとロッケンロール) and will be first performed at the December recital!
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===Setlist for Hello Pro Kenshuusei December 2023 Recital "Yukibana"===

1. Kimi no Toujou / ALL
2. Umaretate no Baby Love / ALL
MC
3. Kira Kira Fuyu no Shiny G / Murakoshi, Uemura, Makino
4. Seinaru Kane ga Hibiki Yoru / Hashida, Uemura, Kawano
5. Kimi wa Jitensha Watashi wa Denshi de Kitaku / Matsubara, Murakoshi, Yoshida, Hayashi
6. Dakishimerarete Mitai / KSS Unit '23
MC
7. Uchira no Jimoto wa Chikyuu jan! / OCHA NORMA
8. Yoridori ME DREAM / OCHA NORMA
9. Shekenaare / OCHA NORMA
10. Nandakanda Everyday! / OCHA NORMA
MC
11. CHO Chokotto Rock'n'Roll / KSS Unit '23
12. Onna de Chikyuu wa Mawatteru / KSS Unit '23
13. Upside down girl / KSS Unit '23, KSS, Nishizaki
14. Konna Hazujanakatta! / KSS Unit '23, KSS
15. Taikibansei / KSS Unit '23, Kawano, Hiromoto
MC
16. Honki de Atsui Theme Song / ALL
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So I have to wonder being in 2024 if the Kenshuusei program will continue or not and how they'll do things with everything going on.

KSS Unit still needing to finalize their line-up and debut and only 3 KSS that's not in a unit left, makes me wonder if even a Shinden Test will even happen this year...
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I assumed that the 25th anniversary audition that should be wrapping up soon was to restock the KSS.
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That's my thought, too. Might not make it for a full test, but next year then.
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First post updated. It’s been awhile since I touched it. So everyone got new pictures too.
 

28th Generation (2017)
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Matsubara Yulia (松原ユリヤ) February 26, 2008 (age 16) [KSS Unit'24]

29th Generation (2018)
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Onoda Karin (小野田華凛) January 23, 2008 (age 16) [KSS Unit'24]

30th Generation (2019)
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Hashida Honoka (橋田歩果) October 17, 2005 (age 19) [KSS Unit'24]
Murakoshi Ayana (村越彩菜) February 11, 2008 (age 16) [KSS Unit'24]
Uemura Hasumi (植村葉純) February 25, 2008 (age 16) [KSS Unit'24]

32nd Generation (2021)
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Yoshida Hinoha (吉田姫杷) July 8, 2007 (age 17) [KSS Unit'24]

34th Generation (2022)
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Kamimura Rena (上村麗菜) June 15, 2009 (15) [KSS Unit'24]

35th Generation (2023)
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Kawano Soara (河野空愛) October 6th, 2006 (18)
Makino Toa (牧野永愛) December 26th, 2009 (15)
Hayashi Niina (林仁愛) June 10th, 2011 (13)

36th Generation (2024)
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Shimakawa Hana (島川波菜) April 18, 2008 (16)
Asano Yurika (浅野優莉花) July 31, 2009 (15)
Miyakoshi Chihiro (宮越千尋) August 27, 2010 (14)
Nishimura Itsuki (西村乙輝) October 15, 2010 (14)
Souma Yume (相馬優芽) February 4, 2011 (13)
Ootsubo Mano (大坪茉乃) June 22, 2011 (13)
Yoshida Hikari (吉田光里) October 1, 2011 (13)
Sugihara Meisa (杉原明紗) December 20, 2011 (13)
Hattori Rua (服部琉愛) February 7, 2013 (11)


The Hatched Egg List
The Google Doc of Eggkss
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*All ages are set to 2024. (Because I’ll forget to update the ages and this is what age they will be this year.)

Rua’s birthday is today, meaning she was 10 when she joined the Kenshuusei.
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===Setlist for Hello Pro Kenshuusei Recital March 2024 "Mimosa" ===

1. Irotoridori Nobi yo!! / KSS Unit '24, Kawano, Makino, Hayashi
2. Romance no Tochuu / KSS Unit '24, Kawano, Makino, Hayashi
MC
3. Sakura Chirari / Kawano, Makino, Hayashi
4. Image Color / Kamimura, Hashida
5. Sakura Mankai / Matsubara, Onoda, Uemura, Murakoshi, Yoshida
6. Munasawagi Scarlet / KSS Unit '24
MC
7. Renai Bugyou / BEYOOOOONDS
8. Koshi Tanta Turn / BEYOOOOONDS
MC / Comments bout Ichioka's graduation
9. Oheso no Kuni Kara Konnichiwa / BEYOOOOONDS
MC
10. Nippon no D.N.A! / BEYOOOOONDS
MC
11. Pyocopyoco Ultra / Shimakawa, Asano, Miyakoshi, Nishimura, Souna, Otsubo, Yoshida, Sugihara, Hattori
12. CHO Chokotto Rock'n'Roll / KSS Unit '24
13. Koi no Crouching Start / KSS Unit '24
14. 43do / BEYOOOOONDS, KSS Unit '24, Kawano, Makino, Hayashi
15. 46-okunen LOVE / KSS Unit '24, Kawano, Makino, Hayashi
MC
16. Shunrenka / ALL
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So on Hello Dream, we got the 10 songs the KSS will have to choose from for the upcoming Shinden Test!

- Suggoi FEVER!
- Aisubekibeki Human Life
- Ijiwaru Shinaide Dakishimete yo
- Skip Skip Skip
- Renai Bugyou
- Suhada wa Nettaiya
- Golden Chinatown
- Massara Blue Jeans
- Nen ni wa Nen
- Boogie-Woogie LOVE
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