Morning Musume's 50th Single "One•Two•Three/The Matenrou Show"

[Mugi]

Ok after hearing that it does sound a little more similar. But with the lyrics they sound nothing alike to me.

[Pucchi-Mo]

Ok, it's difficult to describe music over the internet when you don't have the song playing while talking to someone...



Basically, the consistent synthesized "organ-like" sound of MM's song, is played almost the same way. SHINee intros with it, then drops that part, and brings it back later with other layers, so it's a bit more complex. I'm saying that UFA borrowed the way the synth is played in that specific part and just applied it to all of MM's song, and also kept a similar tempo.



Additionally, if you listen to the beat that begins right when Reina sings her first line "Hyaku-man DORU..." and compare it to the SHINee beat that starts at 16seconds/again at 54&1:28, (and this is obviously a simple pattern, nothing groundbreaking for either to use) they both do the same [boom *clap* boom boom *clap*] pattern in the percussion.



That's the bulk of why I thought SHINee's Lucifer might have inspired One・Two・Three.

There's not all that much going on in One・Two・Three, so by its simplicity, it sort of becomes a new song.

[neshcom]

Well, that's a pretty basic sounding synth in both songs and the other elements you mentioned aren't characteristically unique to either group. It's kind of a K-pop sound, but OneTwoThree has a lot of pop/J-pop distinct elements.

[rob]

So Risa finally leaves and then momusu sell 100k....



COINCIDENCE????? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... ohyeah.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D/' />

[roddyreta]

^

People used to joke about fifth generation being cursed, and now I have to wonder whether it's true...

[andrewmarlin]

[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1341806766' post='129700']

^

People used to joke about fifth generation being cursed, and now I have to wonder whether it's true...

[/quote]



Cursed you say?

Never heard that...

[Mugi]

<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' /> O please this is just because this is their 50th single and they are promoting it a lot. I think it could have sold this whether she was there or not. Cursed Gen my ass.

[Ap2000]

[quote name='Pucchi mo' timestamp='1341784147' post='129689']

Instrumental track for SHINee - Lucifer



They definitely borrowed something from SHINee. I'm not saying it's an exact copy, but there are similar decisions.

[/quote]



Yeah, it's very similar.



Funny, usually it's the other way around.

[Shoujo Q]

They got 3,856 for today, coming in at #2.



Total sales now, 98,703. They just need 1,300 (or 1,297 exact) tomorrow to make it to 100k. So very doable. Good job to the fans, staff for promoting it properly and the girls for making it possible.



Also here's a video of them at Sunshine with Yuko.

[andrewmarlin]

Here is another video of them on JIJIPRESS (I apologize if it isn't a show)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZrNRtW ... ture=g-u-u



Edit: I don't know how to do the word that is underlined with the external lin

[roddyreta]

One of the guys at Takamaruyo attended the July 8th release event, and wrote a detailed summary.



He mentions that Zukki looked sick during the event and was coughing. Hopefully, she'll get some rest after all this 1-2-3 promotion ends.

[eri]

[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1341848547' post='129724']

One of the guys at Takamaruyo attended the July 8th release event, and wrote a detailed summary.



He mentions that Zukki looked sick during the event and was coughing. Hopefully, she'll get some rest after all this 1-2-3 promotion ends.

[/quote]



It is so interesting how other fans are really alienated from wota <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> I wonder how people find out about these events. I'd love to go.

[Ap2000]

[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1341848547' post='129724']

One of the guys at Takamaruyo attended the July 8th release event, and wrote a detailed summary.



He mentions that Zukki looked sick during the event and was coughing. Hopefully, she'll get some rest after all this 1-2-3 promotion ends.

[/quote]



Did she (somehow the writing and everything indicates to me it's a girl lol) go to a handshake event without having any tickets ? Or did I miss something ?

Seems a bit like a waste of time.

[momoirosaya]

MM has officially broken 100k! The have sold 101,000 copies their first week! Woohoo!

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/2014081/full/

[roddyreta]

Awesome!



This beat Shabondama's first week sales (98,028), making it the best first week sales for 6th gen.



Highest first week sales since Koko ni Iruzee (139,070) in October 2002. That's nearly a decade. Just incredible.

[al kusanagi]

Yup... It was totally Risa holding them back. It's either that or Sayu's godlike leadership skills.

[Mugi]

[quote name='Al Kusanagi' timestamp='1341865944' post='129752']

Yup... It was totally the good promo. It's either that or Sayu's godlike leadership skills.

[/quote]



I feel it was the latter.

[Farrah]

Amazing! I honestly didn't think it was possible! I think this shows us where UFA have truly been slacking off - promotion. I'm not that surprised, according to my friends in Japan, you never see Momusu on television. No CMs, no tv show appearances, nothing. Maybe this new promotion technique will help remind a few people that the group still exists. That is, if they don't instantly start slacking after this.

[Banana]

Super awesome. I really hope this doesn't turn out to be a fluke.

[Anderei]

Yaguchi talks about Souda! We're ALIVE

Kaori does Do It! Now.

[Kaworu]

OMG I'm so excited for them.... ;_;



Sayu breaking down with Yuuko's congratulations totally melted my heart.



GO MOMUSU!! :)



EDIT:



AND I think that other VERY cool thing that is happening with this single that I feel makes a big difference is the use of OGs as promoters of the single.



The fact is that many OGs are popular outside of wota world and until now it never seemed that OGs supported of promoted current momusu. It makes sense that doing that is helping with sales/popularity.



I really hope this trend continues.

[rallyleo]

[quote name='Kaworu' timestamp='1341899792' post='129781']

I really hope this trend continues.

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Mark my words, it won't.



Does anybody here seriously think that this is anything more than a fluke? I don't mean to be Mr. Negative, but this IS UFA we're talking about.

[momoirosaya]

[quote name='Rally' timestamp='1341901962' post='129782']

[quote name='Kaworu' timestamp='1341899792' post='129781']

I really hope this trend continues.

[/quote]



Mark my words, it won't.



Does anybody here seriously think that this is anything more than a fluke? I don't mean to be Mr. Negative, but this IS UFA we're talking about.

[/quote]

The only way this could continue is if they keep up this level of promotion and doing all the hand shake events and mini lives as well as having a decent song. But I doubt they'll promote their next single as heavily as this one. The 50th one is special.

[Pucchi-Mo]

[quote name='Rally' timestamp='1341901962' post='129782']

[quote name='Kaworu' timestamp='1341899792' post='129781']

I really hope this trend continues.

[/quote]



Mark my words, it won't.



Does anybody here seriously think that this is anything more than a fluke? I don't mean to be Mr. Negative, but this IS UFA we're talking about.

[/quote]



It's not a fluke if you can control it, it was far from just a lucky break, they know exactly what it takes to get this kind of result...



It's just that they probably won't bother next time <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hahaha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hahaha:' />



Hitting 50 singles is significant, whatever, whatever, but if they put the same effort into the next single, I do think they could achieve similar success.



At the very least, it might mean a good sign for the album, since people remember them now. Promote the hell out of that album, don't give up just yet.

[neshcom]

Hopefully, 100k+ is enough return for the promotion. If they finally realize spending money will sell units, we can get better (read: higher production) MM. 50 singles is a big thing, but is it such a big draw on its own that its the only time all this promo is warranted? Let's hope not.

[showraniy]

Yay, congrats girls! I knew you could do it!! Thank goodness Risa got the fuck out. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hawhaw:' />



But I'm on the negative train with everyone else in thinking it won't happen again.

[JPope]

It's not just promotion. It's having a good product to promote, as well. If they go back to recording lackluster songs, all the promotion in the world won't make them sell.

[Anderei]

Of all the outfits to put on display, they choose these really awful ones:

[zlilzlilzlil]

offical ranking for the week are out:



Morning Musume ranked at 3rd place, selling 100598 copies...



and on the daily ranking they ranked at 5th, selling about 1000 copies (3rd place sold around 1200).

[Shoujo Q]

Dance Cover of 123. It's pretty good. No boys this time.