The K-Pop Spam Thread

[fpd]

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YESSSSSSS. OH YES. It's Psy! Gangnam Style! You know you want that in your ears and eyes!



It's so beautiful. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... R#>/8o.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8o' />

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Holy shit, that is my favorite music video ever. The first part with Yoo Jae Suk I was hoping to see him do the grasshopper dance and was a little disappointed until the end. So fucking good.

[Pflaume]

[Ap2000]

[quote name='Plum' timestamp='1342401796' post='130078']



YESSSSSSS. OH YES. It's Psy! Gangnam Style! You know you want that in your ears and eyes!



It's so beautiful. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... R#>/8o.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8o' />

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Is this some kind of LMFAO hardcore fan ?

Because that video and music is like a 1:1 copy of their shtick. lol

[Pflaume]

PSY was ruling Korea long before LMFAO even existed. But I also love LMFAO so I opt to view this as a compliment. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /noway.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':noway:' />

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[quote name='Ap2000' timestamp='1342427931' post='130092']

[quote name='Plum' timestamp='1342401796' post='130078']



YESSSSSSS. OH YES. It's Psy! Gangnam Style! You know you want that in your ears and eyes!



It's so beautiful. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... R#>/8o.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8o' />

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Is this some kind of LMFAO hardcore fan ?

Because that video and music is like a 1:1 copy of their shtick. lol

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God it hurts my brain so much to think anyone believes LMFAO is at all original. I like their music for the most part, but god damn they are not some amazing new thing like a lot of people seem to think. Hopefully that was just a troll post though.

[Ap2000]

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God it hurts my brain so much to think anyone believes LMFAO is at all original. I like their music for the most part, but god damn they are not some amazing new thing like a lot of people seem to think. Hopefully that was just a troll post though.

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I don't care about lmfao at all... ? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /pouty.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pouty:' />

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God it hurts my brain so much to think anyone believes LMFAO is at all original. I like their music for the most part, but god damn they are not some amazing new thing like a lot of people seem to think. Hopefully that was just a troll post though.

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I don't care about lmfao at all... ? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /pouty.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pouty:' />

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K, well you said the video was a 1:1 copy of lmfao, as if they somehow made that "shtick", so I took that as you caring about them/being a fan. I'm just sick of the constant OMG PLAGIARISM shit all over the place (not referencing anything here specifically, just in general)

[rallyleo]

I'm with you there.



3 years later and everything visually and musically has STILL been somehow invented by Lady Gaga.

[Anderei]

There's a cool article outlining the weaknesses of SME/JYPE/YGE. I thought it was interesting.



A summary in case it's tl;dr for you:



SM - A very rigid system. All their groups and songs follow the same structure. "systematically built on the ideal idol image, overseas music trends, chic styling, and massive amounts of publicity, the SM system is still vulnerable to that ‘1% of unpredictability’." IT's worth noting that EXO still did well despite not really blowing up overnight.



JYPE - JYP himself. Kind of a Tsunku situation where EVERYTHING is produced by him. It's all way too similar and it's getting old.



YG - Closed communication/heavy reliance on Big Bang. The company tends to focus on on SBS and neglects KBS and MBC. "This is the case not just with television, but also with newspapers, magazines, and other media. It may not be a big problem for artists that have reached a certain level of success; however that is not the case for new artists. The smallest negative matters brought up by sides that are not “alliances”, can cause a fatal blow on up and coming artists." Big Bang also accounted for 70 percent of their sales in 2010, so if something every happened to the, the company would theoretically be in huge trouble financially.

[showraniy]

70% is just crazy, especially for something as fleeting as a musical act. Hell, at the height of Ayumi Hamasaki's career, she only accounted for 40% of avex's sales.



I've never paid a huge amount of attention to Big Bang, but seeing a figure like that makes me really curious. I wonder how reliable it is.

[Arichii]

Hm. The article was pretty interesting and pretty true as well. I agree with what was said about most of the agencies. One thing I notice about SM Ent. is that they really like the formula thing. Once they find something they like music wise, they stick with it, e.g with Super Junior ever since Sorry Sorry, all of their title tracks are electropop-autotune stuff. Same with most of their other groups, they follow the same pattern like f(x) with Chu~ Nu ABO and Danger and now Electric Shock, all follow somewhat of a similar pattern.



I disagree with what was said about the Wonder Girls though,I think they've definitely broken out of the retro concept recently but that's just me.



And with YG, they definitely place most of their emphasis on Big Bang, but that's probably a given since they're one of the top idol groups and all. Oh though weren't they supposed to be debuting a new girl group soon? Or did I miss it?

[Anderei]

No, they are. But the newer groups from SM and JYP haven't really blown up, so I can't help but wonder if YG's new group will follow suit. I think some of the big three hype is gone.



[quote name='showraniy' timestamp='1343012129' post='130613']

70% is just crazy, especially for something as fleeting as a musical act. Hell, at the height of Ayumi Hamasaki's career, she only accounted for 40% of avex's sales.



I've never paid a huge amount of attention to Big Bang, but seeing a figure like that makes me really curious. I wonder how reliable it is.

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The companies usually report this stuff at the end of the year, so it's probably fairly reliable. Especially since I don't recall any of their soloists doing anything in 2010.

[Pflaume]

I agree with the general statements in the article, though I actually think JYP has a pretty good range. In particular, some of Miss A's releases are seriously excellent and manage to be pretty different from the standard JYP release.



SM is formulaic and that's nothing new, but the fact of the matter is it has worked for them so far and it doesn't look to be changing anytime soon.



Wow, I somehow missed that the year YG reported 70% for Big Bang in was 2010. They mostly focused on solo releases and Japanese activities in that year, right? And here I thought they probably used 2011's numbers when Big Bang made their big comeback. And that was a great year for 2NE1, too. Was it the tour and promotional activities that put Big Bang so over the top? I don't even know... <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hatthe.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whatthe:' />



Also, showraniy, check out Fantastic Baby. If it doesn't stir the dance monster deep inside of you I can't help you. Big Bang are honestly the only boy group I could care less about.

[Anderei]

Big Bang do more TV stuff, which is probably an important factor. And 2ne1's album didn't come out until the second half of the year. They always take a long time to comeback.

[Pflaume]

Commercial deals are also a huge factor, no? I feel like I remember the BB members getting some pretty big endorsement deals that year.

[Ap2000]

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Also, showraniy, check out Fantastic Baby. If it doesn't stir the dance monster deep inside of you I can't help you. Big Bang are honestly the only boy group I could care less about.

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Gosh, I just can't sit through a boygroup music video without starting to laugh or at least smirk. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... >/rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Especially asian ones.

[Pflaume]

I actually think that song purposely alternates between serious dance jam and self-aware silliness. It's kind of why I love it. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



The live performances of that song were definitely really silly on purpose. 2:30 on the first video makes me laugh every time.

[Anderei]

Evol - We Are a Bit Different



The song is not that different, but damn if it isn't catchy. I like it so much I'm even ignoring some all of the styling decisions.



We're also getting a female break dancing group too.

[Pflaume]

Speaking of catchy, Tasty's You Know Me is stuck in my head. I KNOW IT'S CRAP BUT I CAN'T STOP SINGING IT.

[Anderei]

Remember that Open World CEO who sexually harassed his trainees and had some of his idols participate?



He's only getting six years.

[rallyleo]

Is anybody else getting sick of all these new groups debuting? It's getting a little old. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



I'm also aware that there is literally no end in sight and that I should just accept it.

[Anderei]

Not really. The ones that won't make it are weeded out quickly enough (i.e the ones that don't get to be on the music shows often). And I'm all for new groups if they're better than the old ones.

[Arichii]

^Yeah I agree, there were a number of debuts last year, but I haven't really heard from them since their debut, so I just assume they weren't able to break through the market

[quote name='Plum' timestamp='1344621225' post='131780']

Speaking of catchy, Tasty's You Know Me is stuck in my head. I KNOW IT'S CRAP BUT I CAN'T STOP SINGING IT.

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I KNOW IT'S SO CATCHY! But I'm kinda disappointed though, Woolliment is a pretty good agency so I was expecting better :/

[Pflaume]

I'm really digging Seo In Young's new release, ANYMORE.



The video's like a styled photoshoot in MV format, and the song's really good. It grows on you. Really loving some of the styling, too. Very f(x)/2NE1-y.

[Zaeleus]

Hulu now has recent episodes of SBS Inkigayo. Edit: And the MC segments have English subtitles!

[Shoujo Q]

[quote name='Zaeleus' timestamp='1346377061' post='132606']

Hulu now has recent episodes of SBS Inkigayo. Edit: And the MC segments have English subtitles!

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Well isn't that nifty? :D

[Ap2000]

[quote name='Zaeleus' timestamp='1346377061' post='132606']

Hulu now has recent episodes of SBS Inkigayo. Edit: And the MC segments have English subtitles!

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"Sorry, currently our video library can only be watched from within the United States."



Damn you, digital rights & IP-range bans !

[Shoujo Q]

Eat Your Kimchi did a magazine interview, it answers quiet a few of the questions I was wondering about with them. So I thought it was interesting.

[Melon]

[quote name='Zaeleus' timestamp='1346377061' post='132606']

Hulu now has recent episodes of SBS Inkigayo. Edit: And the MC segments have English subtitles!

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Usher -YEAH.mp3 <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' /> Thanks for the head's up

[Pflaume]

I. Cannot. Wait.