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That was interesting. Riho had some very ugly moments, but the most horrifying thing for me was Ayumi. They're letting her sing live now on TV. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... >/sick.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':sick:' /> Girl has no control over her voice whatsoever.



Sakura's not live, but that's normal. I was kinda hoping that she would be live, though. I'm so curious to see how she will do.
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[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1357127405' post='140757']

Help Me Live Performance from that show. Haven't found Love Machine yet.



And they do sing live, though I don't know about Sakura? I can painfully tell that Riho is singing live, as well as Mizuki and Reina.

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Such a shame. Sakura could have pulled that line off without a problem, I'm sure. The others, however...

It just doesn't make any sense. The more I think about what a hot mess it was, the more amusing it becomes.
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Mizuki wins Love Machine.



What everyone else said about HELP ME!!
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I'm super sad Sakura didn't get to sing live even though I know that's normal... I can't wait to hear her!



Watching them sing Love Machine is like watching AKB cover H!P songs. There's no glimmer of old MM left in them whatsoever and it's weird. Not bad, just weird!
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Mizuki is obviously so into what she does. It sounds cheesy, but it's really obvious that she loves MM. She killed in in Love Machine.

Riho, aaaagh.

Sakura needed some lines. What a perfect opportunity to promote the new member in a classic MM song! Such a waste.



Who were those uniformed girls to the sides of them? They didn't show them at any point.
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Who were those uniformed girls to the sides of them? They didn't show them at any point.

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"Riho, Ayumi, *takes their microphones* You're not allowed to sing live anymore. Its for the best"

Let's just go ahead and hope they aren't allowed to sing live anymore until they can learn some voice control.
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Just watched Help me. That was unfortunate.
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It's a shame that most of the post-Reina frontgirls are weak singers. Hopefully Sakura will stay strong and won't be forced into a squeaky voice (Reina, Aika, Linlin) and generation 12 will eventually yield some decent vocalists.



I made the Riho / Sakura cover make sense.
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I mean I like Ayumi and all.. but why on earth did they have her sing live?? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
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I don't get the Ayumi disappoint....she was a little louder than normal, but I thought she was doing just fine with a mic....just take Riho's away plz!!!
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Are there any other links for the HELP ME!! live? That one died :(
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Here's a dailymotion linkto Help Me!! since that YouTube link doesn't seem to be working anymore.



Aside from that, I don't think I have anything to add. That was... disappointing.
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Wow. I'd never thought that I'd live to see the day where Sayumi is better singing live than an ace. Riho was absolutely off in that performance, and her last line was embarrassingly bad. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



Still love this song though!
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Just watched the concert footage from the H!P concert and holy hell. One of them is going to break an ankle dancing to the song on that stage.
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Wooow Help Me was awful. Usually I think you guys are exaggerating, but nope, it was that bad. I don't get all the hate on Ayumi though. She doesn't even have a solo line, so I didn't notice her sounding bad more than anyone else. Even Mizuki sounded bad. What really made it extra painful though was having half of the girls sing live and half not. Volume was all over the place. And Riho... she looked like she was actually in pain on that last line. Tsunku, please stop giving her "special training" and just give her good training.
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Ayumi was more 'loud' to me than anything else. She was mostly just yelling and the volume difference between her shared lines than the ones that came before them was jarring. I think she's got a nice voice, but lacks vocal control. She's a yeller. But I feel like that's something most of the younger girls get over. To be fair, it's not as if she's really had a whole lot of lines in the past year or so. If she was a serious lead, I'd find the way she sounds much more unacceptable.
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I wasn't hating on her sound, but more that they could have instead had Masaki or someone sing. I'm assuming they're trying to improve Ayumi's live singing with having her sing though.



Also I agree.. Riho's last line it even looked painful for her.
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I can honestly see why Masaki is getting a push. Girl was annoying at first but goddamn she's so endearing she's like my 4th fave now. Love her. She's so likeable, pretty, and sings and dances to a decent level. Can't really ask for much more.
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Now if they'd only stop making Masaki do a cutesy voice and let her use her big-girl voice. I don't really know what else to call it, but you know she can do a non-cutesy voice. She and Sakura sounded really nice on whatever streaming show (was it a Ustream?) or some other video clip where they sang together a capella.
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This user has a few Help Me mic rips in case anyone is interested in that. Bear in mind that mic rips never really sound nice, though.
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Dik426 from H!O also made a video of all the mic rips in one in case anyone wanted to hear it all together.
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Yikes. The difference between Sakura and Riho in these mic rips is a stark one.
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Yeah, I had to turn it off after the first half. Holy moley. o_O
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It's disappointing to hear how quiet the mic rips are for non-leads like Haruka. I don't know how they expect the supports to get better without giving them more experience, especially since they're probably not getting as many vocal lessons as the leads.
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Wow dem mic rips. Sakura sounds fine, she reminds me of younger Risa at times. Reina sounds strained and Riho wow, she sounds horrible. Sayu even sounds better, her control is way way more advanced though obviously.



Also I agree with Anderei.
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Those mic rips need to be burried and never dug up again. My ears hurt after listening to that.
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I didn't see this mentioned before, but, posters are out.
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Those mic rips need to be burried and never dug up again. My ears hurt after listening to that.

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I didn't see this mentioned before, but, posters are out.

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