12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
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[quote name='rob' timestamp='1363421636' post='147030']And it's nice not to have to hear people bitch about Karin getting rejected again!
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
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[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
[quote name='AurA' timestamp='1363467675' post='147093']
I think they need to let the girls they have now gain more experience and mature before trying to stuff more members into the group. Its going to put a lot of pressure on Sayumi after Reina leaves and she has to train like 10 people all on her own.
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At this point, 9th gen should be able to help out. I would hope so at least... And even if they're not, Mizuki and Haruka have been in H!P more than the other girls and done concerts before, so they always seemed ahead of the game to me.
I think they need to let the girls they have now gain more experience and mature before trying to stuff more members into the group. Its going to put a lot of pressure on Sayumi after Reina leaves and she has to train like 10 people all on her own.
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At this point, 9th gen should be able to help out. I would hope so at least... And even if they're not, Mizuki and Haruka have been in H!P more than the other girls and done concerts before, so they always seemed ahead of the game to me.
Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1363469134' post='147096']
[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1363438796' post='147040']
[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
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Well... she did participate in the 11th gen audition, right? I think at that point she didn't give a damn, she just wanted to be IN SOMETHING lol
I'm not familiar with the egss, but as long as she (whoever comes in) is good, I don't care. I just want 2 girls so they have them fighting for everything. ^^
[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1363438796' post='147040']
[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
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Well... she did participate in the 11th gen audition, right? I think at that point she didn't give a damn, she just wanted to be IN SOMETHING lol
I'm not familiar with the egss, but as long as she (whoever comes in) is good, I don't care. I just want 2 girls so they have them fighting for everything. ^^
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1363456608' post='147075']
I always thought Sakura was put in to replace the gaping hole that Takahashi and Risa left, not Reina.
Mizuki just doesn't scream leader to me, at least not yet. But then again, Takahashi never fit that bill to me either but she turned out fine and ended up being the longest run leader in the groups history.
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It never seems like he picks girls to replace past members, it's more a way to THROW OFF THE DYNAMIC of the current MM.
I mean, auditions are an investment in the future. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /angel.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
Besides, the new Reina has always been Riho.
Sayumi shouldn't have been surprised by the audition, I wasn't surprised at all. I also think this will be a 2 girl generation.
Sayumi seems like she would stick closely to H!P after MM, so wait for her to get a serious Rika's Viyuden-like group debut, and then you may panic about the possibility of her graduation.
I always thought Sakura was put in to replace the gaping hole that Takahashi and Risa left, not Reina.
Mizuki just doesn't scream leader to me, at least not yet. But then again, Takahashi never fit that bill to me either but she turned out fine and ended up being the longest run leader in the groups history.
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It never seems like he picks girls to replace past members, it's more a way to THROW OFF THE DYNAMIC of the current MM.
I mean, auditions are an investment in the future. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /angel.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
Besides, the new Reina has always been Riho.
Sayumi shouldn't have been surprised by the audition, I wasn't surprised at all. I also think this will be a 2 girl generation.
Sayumi seems like she would stick closely to H!P after MM, so wait for her to get a serious Rika's Viyuden-like group debut, and then you may panic about the possibility of her graduation.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
I adore Sakura, but I don't really see her as the next Ai-chan. She's more like the next Risa -- liked and respected, but not loved and idolized by the wotas. She'll always play second banana to the more popular members, like Riho, Ayumi, and eventually Haruka. I just hope she doesn't end up like my beloved LinLin.
Personally, I'd love to see Tasaki Asahi join Momusu. She meets the age requireement (17) and she obviously has looks, talent, and personality. Plus, she and Masaki could have piano-playing battles during concerts.
Personally, I'd love to see Tasaki Asahi join Momusu. She meets the age requireement (17) and she obviously has looks, talent, and personality. Plus, she and Masaki could have piano-playing battles during concerts.
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Sakura's the next Takahashi vocally. Outside of her I can't think of a single new girl who's getting notable lines that will ever even be anywhere near as good as Reina. If we have to have god-awful leads, I'd like at least to have some decent backup.
Why do people think Haruka is on her way to being a lead? She's been paired up with Kanon, Eripon, and Haruna the last four or five singles choreo and line-wise. She may be popular, but musically UFP obviously considers her bottom-barrel.
Why do people think Haruka is on her way to being a lead? She's been paired up with Kanon, Eripon, and Haruna the last four or five singles choreo and line-wise. She may be popular, but musically UFP obviously considers her bottom-barrel.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
I feel like Sakura is now where Ai was at 16. Ai did not start where Sakura is vocally. What ever happened to the winner of the audition in South Korea by the way? Is she young enough?
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Jang DaYeon? Disappeared after the S/mileage auditions. When asked about it on twitter, she said it was complicated. The fact that she also has a twitter makes me think she's not with the company anymore, because I don't think she'd be allowed one. She'll be 18 later this year. I think she's out of the H!P game. And Momusu is probably done with foreign girls after JunLin.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
[quote name='YuuakuRisa' timestamp='1363494043' post='147132']
I feel like Sakura is now where Ai was at 16. Ai did not start where Sakura is vocally. What ever happened to the winner of the audition in South Korea by the way? Is she young enough?
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I don't agree. I think Sakura's voice is more like Risa's, and I also think Takahashi was a better singer at 15.
I feel like Sakura is now where Ai was at 16. Ai did not start where Sakura is vocally. What ever happened to the winner of the audition in South Korea by the way? Is she young enough?
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I don't agree. I think Sakura's voice is more like Risa's, and I also think Takahashi was a better singer at 15.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
Meh. Too soon and unnecessary. It's like a bad decision by the upper management still mentally stuck in 13 years ago. "We hit weekly #1 and the group got some recognition again, so how to best milk it? I know, let's make an audition, those are always SO popular!". They have a great group dynamic right now, they have replacements for the recent and upcoming graduations down, Sakura is doing great but still barely settled down, and I really don't want them to fuck this goodness up.
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Jang DaYeon? Disappeared after the S/mileage auditions. When asked about it on twitter, she said it was complicated. The fact that she also has a twitter makes me think she's not with the company anymore, because I don't think she'd be allowed one. She'll be 18 later this year. I think she's out of the H!P game. And Momusu is probably done with foreign girls after JunLin.
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I don't think probable and Morning Musume/H!P can ever exist, plus JunJun & LinLin were the best case scenario. They have done way worse with local girls.
Jang DaYeon? Disappeared after the S/mileage auditions. When asked about it on twitter, she said it was complicated. The fact that she also has a twitter makes me think she's not with the company anymore, because I don't think she'd be allowed one. She'll be 18 later this year. I think she's out of the H!P game. And Momusu is probably done with foreign girls after JunLin.
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I don't think probable and Morning Musume/H!P can ever exist, plus JunJun & LinLin were the best case scenario. They have done way worse with local girls.
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It took years for Takahashi to gain her place in Morning Musume history. Same with Sayumi. So many members before them had to leave before they finally got their spotlight.
I think one single released before the next generation comes in will be good for this Morning Musume. To showcase the group without Reina. It takes like 4-5 months to finish auditions. Depending on circumstances. That's how long they usually have between single releases these days. So we should probably see the winner at a fall Morning Musume concert or the end of the summer Hello!Project concert. Unless of course UF is all like, we're done with being predictable, screw the normal timeline of events!
I think one single released before the next generation comes in will be good for this Morning Musume. To showcase the group without Reina. It takes like 4-5 months to finish auditions. Depending on circumstances. That's how long they usually have between single releases these days. So we should probably see the winner at a fall Morning Musume concert or the end of the summer Hello!Project concert. Unless of course UF is all like, we're done with being predictable, screw the normal timeline of events!
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
Re: Who is a replacement for who -
I don't really think new auditions are about finding someone to replace a specific person, they're about replenishing numbers and to fill in a general "thing" that's missing.
Eri, JunJun, LinLin leave -> Add 4 new people. Make sure they're young because the group is getting old. Make sure they're energetic and have some personality because we want to leave behind the emo!musume image.
Takahashi leaves, Risa grad impending -> Add 4 more people! Make sure they're also young, but not quite as young because we gotta bridge that awkward age gap. Go for personality, we're still trying to be young and hip!
Reina grad impending -> Add one more girl! We've got good numbers now but we graduated all of the good singers and forgot to get some new ones in the last few auditions.
So basically Sakura is not "the new Takahashi/Risa/Reina" she's "the new good singer."
What hole they're looking to plug with this audition... I have no idea. But I do think it's going to be soon followed by a graduation announcement, that's how UFA rolls. Maybe Sayumi and Mizuki will graduate together to form Robo-W. And then Eripon would be leader for 5 days until they decide they haven't made any truly crazy decisions in a while and throw Aika back in as the Neo-8th generation leader. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... ek3run.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':eekrun:' />
I don't really think new auditions are about finding someone to replace a specific person, they're about replenishing numbers and to fill in a general "thing" that's missing.
Eri, JunJun, LinLin leave -> Add 4 new people. Make sure they're young because the group is getting old. Make sure they're energetic and have some personality because we want to leave behind the emo!musume image.
Takahashi leaves, Risa grad impending -> Add 4 more people! Make sure they're also young, but not quite as young because we gotta bridge that awkward age gap. Go for personality, we're still trying to be young and hip!
Reina grad impending -> Add one more girl! We've got good numbers now but we graduated all of the good singers and forgot to get some new ones in the last few auditions.
So basically Sakura is not "the new Takahashi/Risa/Reina" she's "the new good singer."
What hole they're looking to plug with this audition... I have no idea. But I do think it's going to be soon followed by a graduation announcement, that's how UFA rolls. Maybe Sayumi and Mizuki will graduate together to form Robo-W. And then Eripon would be leader for 5 days until they decide they haven't made any truly crazy decisions in a while and throw Aika back in as the Neo-8th generation leader. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... ek3run.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':eekrun:' />
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
I'm usually excited for new auditions, but I just don't think one's necessary right now... I want to continue to get to know the newer gens more. But I guess the only thing that would solve that would be variety shows where they would show off their personalities. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/meh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';/' />
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I so do wish they had a proper variety show. Hello! Morning is what made me fall in love with MM in the first place. I guess I should catch up on DVD magazine...
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Found this on facebook, of course they never source their stuff so. So I'll believe it came from tumblr.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
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[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1363469134' post='147096']
[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1363438796' post='147040']
[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
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Well... she did participate in the 11th gen audition, right? I think at that point she didn't give a damn, she just wanted to be IN SOMETHING lol
I'm not familiar with the egss, but as long as she (whoever comes in) is good, I don't care. I just want 2 girls so they have them fighting for everything. ^^
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Yeah, but she said herself in an interview around that time that she would rather be a soloist, or in a new group. Of course she still auditioned, but she wasn't gungho about getting in.
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1363469134' post='147096']
[quote name='Shoujo Q' timestamp='1363438796' post='147040']
[quote name='Trinu' timestamp='1363431091' post='147036']
Maybe it's time to put Karin in (the girl is good and really wants it)[/quote]
That would be quite hard to do, considering she's already in a group.
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Also the fact that she didn't really want to be in MM.
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Well... she did participate in the 11th gen audition, right? I think at that point she didn't give a damn, she just wanted to be IN SOMETHING lol
I'm not familiar with the egss, but as long as she (whoever comes in) is good, I don't care. I just want 2 girls so they have them fighting for everything. ^^
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Yeah, but she said herself in an interview around that time that she would rather be a soloist, or in a new group. Of course she still auditioned, but she wasn't gungho about getting in.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
Cuca announced on her blog she's auditioning. She'll turn 11 April 28th and is from Kagawa.
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Cuca announced on her blog she's auditioning. She'll turn 11 April 28th and is from Kagawa.
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Please accept her!!!
Same birthday as me! I can't believe I never realized that before.
Cuca announced on her blog she's auditioning. She'll turn 11 April 28th and is from Kagawa.
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Please accept her!!!
Same birthday as me! I can't believe I never realized that before.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
As much as I don't want someone as young as 11 years old to join, I think seeing Cuca becoming a member would be amazing. It's basically a job she's been training for since birth.
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As much as I don't want someone as young as 11 years old to join, I think seeing Cuca becoming a member would be amazing. It's basically a job she's been training for since birth.
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She also already has a fanbase! If she joins she'll be the youngest girl ever added into Morning Musume. Does anyone else feel the auditions will become harder in the coming years considering how much songs the newer gens will have to learn?
As much as I don't want someone as young as 11 years old to join, I think seeing Cuca becoming a member would be amazing. It's basically a job she's been training for since birth.
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She also already has a fanbase! If she joins she'll be the youngest girl ever added into Morning Musume. Does anyone else feel the auditions will become harder in the coming years considering how much songs the newer gens will have to learn?
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If Cuca did get in I'm curious as to what would happen to her Youtube. I doubt they would let her upload dances on a seperate non-Mususme channel and plus with all the videos already there who knows they might ask her to delete them. I kind of like her as a Youtuber more but if she got in I'd be all for it.
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[quote name='Mukuro' timestamp='1363555379' post='147176']
If Cuca did get in I'm curious as to what would happen to her Youtube. I doubt they would let her upload dances on a seperate non-Mususme channel and plus with all the videos already there who knows they might ask her to delete them. I kind of like her as a Youtuber more but if she got in I'd be all for it.
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Okai does dance covers so I think if the demand was high, Cuca would continue to. Although not as frequently. We can only hope for a solo Cuca dance DVD. Also they will delete her YouTube. That's a given. If her YouTube channel suddenly is gone, that's a good sign!
If Cuca did get in I'm curious as to what would happen to her Youtube. I doubt they would let her upload dances on a seperate non-Mususme channel and plus with all the videos already there who knows they might ask her to delete them. I kind of like her as a Youtuber more but if she got in I'd be all for it.
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Okai does dance covers so I think if the demand was high, Cuca would continue to. Although not as frequently. We can only hope for a solo Cuca dance DVD. Also they will delete her YouTube. That's a given. If her YouTube channel suddenly is gone, that's a good sign!
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
Was Cuca able to meet the requirements for the last audition? I haven't looked at her youtube page in a few years (probably since she started it), but she's improved A LOT! I was surprised to see she started singing throughout the entire song too. She already sounds better than half of MM <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> I really wouldn't mind seeing her in the group.
Maybe Tsunku's plan is to get her to join?
Maybe Tsunku's plan is to get her to join?
Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
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Was Cuca able to meet the requirements for the last audition? I haven't looked at her youtube page in a few years (probably since she started it), but she's improved A LOT! I was surprised to see she started singing throughout the entire song too. She already sounds better than half of MM <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> I really wouldn't mind seeing her in the group.
Maybe Tsunku's plan is to get her to join?
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No, she was a year too young last time.
Was Cuca able to meet the requirements for the last audition? I haven't looked at her youtube page in a few years (probably since she started it), but she's improved A LOT! I was surprised to see she started singing throughout the entire song too. She already sounds better than half of MM <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> I really wouldn't mind seeing her in the group.
Maybe Tsunku's plan is to get her to join?
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No, she was a year too young last time.
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Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
If Cuca joined it'd be cool if they let her record mirrored solo versions of the dances. It'd make it easier for people to mimic the dances and upload to Youtube and she'd still get to keep her channel and give MM another boost of popularity. EVERYBODY WINS
Re: 12th generation "Mirai Shoujo" Audition
I was so happy reading Cuca is auditioning that if she actually joined I think I would cry. For reals. I was seriously excited just reading she auditioned.
CUCA FOR 12 GEN!
CUCA FOR 12 GEN!