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Wow, yeah no. Different people have different healthy weights, but that is absolutely not hers.
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Could be just those screenshots, but I don't see an issue?

Is there a full figure view from the front?
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It's generally not normal to see the vertebrae that easily.
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I mean she's definitely underweight, which is rarely ever healthy, I just didn't want to jump to conclusions like "Haruna's anorexic!" when it could very well be something outside her control, like what yuzu said.
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Even when I was unintentionally eating waaay too few meals a day and was 20lbs underweight, the most you could see of me were my ribs if I stretched. Keep in mind that Seohyun of Girls' Generation is 20lbs underweight too, just as a comparison. While it's possible that Haruna could be less underweight comparatively speaking (e.g. 15lbs underweight as opposed to 20lbs), she's definitely skinnier here than any other slightly underweight person I've ever seen.
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Well one of the members made a comment of "when I grabbed her wrist I could really feel how small she was," I wanna say it was Ishida but idk. Either way it seems to be getting around that she's pretty skinny. Like everyone else said, I don't think it's intentional. She made a comment of wanting to keep her girlish figure for summertime when Sukatto was being previewed/advertised but that was a while ago.
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It was Ishida.
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She also might just be a bit bonier? I can see my spine if I tense my back (not as much as hers) but I'm definitely not underweight. Although I agree she does look *too* thin.
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There's an animated gif of her from that day--her spine is visible throughout all of her actions.
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I linked the wrong images before. You can see by comparing the two pictures that her legs look a lot skinnier now than they were back then. Like others have said, its probably nothing to worry about in eating disorder front, she probably has a fast metabolism.
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Nah, she's making an effort to be that skinny because she's unhealthily skinny. If people can look Kpop star skinny (AKA skinny but not enough to show bones) at 20lbs underweight, she's definitely beyond even that.


She's absolutely too thin, and the body's natural metabolism won't do that. At my worst, I ate one meal a day, had acquaintance classmates saying I was too skinny, and still never had my bones protruding as badly as she does.
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But also different people deal with stress differently.  She might not be eating enough and is obviously getting a lot of exercise but that doesn't necessarily mean she is doing it intentionally.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="showraniy" data-cid="191942" data-time="1444710766">She's absolutely too thin, and the body's natural metabolism won't do that. At my worst, I ate one meal a day, had acquaintance classmates saying I was too skinny, and still never had my bones protruding as badly as she does.</blockquote>
From my own anecdotal evidence, yes, metabolism can do that. When I was around Haruna's age I would eat any and every amount of food 24/7 and I was still very underweight. As my metabolism slowed down a few years ago I'm now within the "norm" (still lower end of it). But you always could and still can see my vertebrae - this is more due to a person's individual build and less due to weight.

Looking at the two comparison pictures, she is clearly skinnier in the lower one, but nothing to ring the alarm bells about IMHO.
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But if its about your build and you couldn't see them before wouldn't that be an indication it's not normal? She was pretty thin beforehand too. What the body does naturally isn't always good for it.
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Also eating only one meal a day a slows your metabolism way down. She has to eat way more than that to keep her energy up for concerts or she would be passing out.
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Also eating only one meal a day a slows your metabolism way down. She has to eat way more than that to keep her energy up for concerts or she would be passing out.
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Back when they used to include backstage footage on H!P concert DVDS, oh so many years ago, I would marvel at the number of shots showing the girls with plates of food. Proof that management was actually feeding them. I love watching them eat. This was in contrast to the scenes in Hello! Morning where one or two girls would win the contest and get to eat the dish offered as a prize while the other girls gazed hungrily at them. Remember that bit where Rika's group won and Rika shoved the bowl of ramen in Tsuji's face just to taunt her and Tsuji started crying? We don't see "drama" like that anymore.
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Back when they used to include backstage footage on H!P concert DVDS, oh so many years ago, I would marvel at the number of shots showing the girls with plates of food. Proof that management was actually feeding them. I love watching them eat.</blockquote>


There's now separate DVDs only for footage, if you're interested, and they still have a lot of food backstage but I doubt anyone can force them to eat.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Saya" data-cid="191973" data-time="1444838461">
Also eating only one meal a day a slows your metabolism way down. She has to eat way more than that to keep her energy up for concerts or she would be passing out.</blockquote>
I'm not really sure that applies across the board, but I'm not sure what the reasons would be as to why. I was stick thin and could eat whatever I wanted, but I couldn't gain any weight and I assumed it's because I only ate once a day. I also think it might make a difference to eat one meal a day over a longer period (AKA doing this for years instead of days or months).


I've gained ~30lbs since then and am right in the middle of the target weight for my height. I also eat three meals a day now, and snack.


I really don't know much about it other than what my specific body has done, so I admit I could be completely wrong, but I have never ever seen so much bone definition on a healthy body before. I knew a fair share of very lanky people, but their overall bone structure was smaller too, so no bones ever stuck out as badly as Haruna's.


I honestly believe that different people have different "normal" weights for their body--some big, some small--but Haruna looks too thin for her own body frame, which indicates to me that it's not natural or healthy.
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You can still be very thin and have a slow metabolism. If you're under eating calories you'll still lose weight because the body starts using fat stores and muscle for energy. But that's more for if you have an eating disorder. I also wouldn't completely throw that idea out the window. In an interview with an OG member they talked about their struggles with body image and how dangerous the situation actually was behind closed doors. I don't remember who it was...maybe Reina?
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I remember Risa talking about how she was too obsessed with being thin for awhile. And there was also a point where Tsuji was scary skinny.
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Well even her gen-mate Nonaka has gotten on the diet bus pretty quickly, so it's true you never know. Though Nonaka and Suzuki are quite vocal about their diets.
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While I don't think it is ever appropriate to speculate on how individual girls are "supposed" to look to demonstrate how "healthy" they are to our sort of warped American perspectives...yeah
 
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Skeleton cosplay for Halloween maybe?
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Meep. I'm in Japan on exchange and seeing Risa's play (Maboroshi no Jou) tomorrow and C-ute's concert Sunday yay <3 
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Time flies ridiculously fast... Sakura is still "new" to me and she's been around three years. I feel so old OTL
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Well 12ki were there for quite a while before they're first single it feels like.
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