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Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
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Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
Hello! Project Members Ranking - December 2020 Edition
Whoppa! What a year. We lost some, we gained some. But what did it do to our rankings?
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Let me introduce the members of Hello! Project:
Morning Musume. '20
Yokoyama Reina, Haga Akane, Ikuta Erina (SL), Makino Maria, Morito Chisaki, Nonaka Miki, Kaga Kaede
Okamura Homare, Ishida Ayumi (SL), Fukumura Mizuki (L), Kitagawa Rio, Satou Masaki, Oda Sakura, Yamazaki Mei
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ANGERME
Kasahara Momona, Hashisako Rin, Kamikokuryo Moe, Ise Layla, Sasaki Rikako
Takeuchi Akari (L), Kawana Rin (new), Matsomoto Wakana (new), Tamenaga Shion (new), Kawamura Ayano (SL)
Also: Murota Mizuki (last), Funaki Musubu (last), Oota Haruka (last)
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Juice=Juice
Kanazawa Tomoko (L), Takagi Sayuki (SL), Matsunaga Riai, Inaba Manaka, Kudo Yume
Dambara Ruru, Inoue Rei (new), Uemura Akari
Also: Miyamoto Karin (last)
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Kobushi Factory (last)
Wada Sakurako (last), Nomura Minami (last), Hamaura Ayano (last), Inoue Rei, Hirose Ayaka (L; last)
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Tsubaki Factory
Kishimoto Yumeno, Yamagishi Riko (L), Onoda Saori, Tanimoto Ami, Akiyama Mao
Niinuma Kisora, Asakura Kiki, Ono Mizuho, Ogata Risa (SL; hiatus)
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Beyooooonds
Eguchi Saya, Kobayashi Honoka, Maeda Kokoro, Kiyono Momohime, Takase Kurumi (L RFRO), Satoyoshi Utano
Hirai Miyo, Okamura Minami, Shimakura Rika, Yamazaki Yuhane, Nishida Shiori, Ichioka Reina (L C#T)
[/spoilerbox]And for those of you who want to go all out...
Hello Pro Kenshuusei
Yonemura Kirara, Yamada Ichigo, Nakayama Natsume, Kubota Nanami, Matsubara Yulia
Saito Madoka, Onoda Karin, Hiromoto Ruli, Hashida Honoka, Nishizaki Miku
Hirayama Yuki, Kitahara Momo, Ebata Kisaki, Yofu Runo, Murakoshi Ayana
Uemura Hasumi, Arisawa Ichika (new), Ishiyama Sakura (new)
[/spoilerbox]Happy Ranking!
Last edited by DonJuan on Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
And yupp, I will start once again. My previous years: 2019, 2018 (December), 2018 (January), 2016
Overall ranking:
1. Kanazawa Tomoko (-)
2. Haga Akane (-)
3. Yokoyama Reina (-)
4. Takeuchi Akari (8)
5. Dambara Ruru (-)
6. Takagi Sayuki (?)
7. Kishimoto Yumeno (6)
8. Hirai Miyo (?)
9. Kamikokuryo Moe (7)
10. Kasahara Momona (?)
- - -
45. Fukumura Mizuki (57)
46. Tamenaga Shion (new)
47. Morito Chisaki (58)
48. Satoyoshi Utano (?)
49. Onoda Saori (54)
50. Hashisako Rin (?)
51. Tanimoto Ami (55)
52. Yamagishi Riko (62)
53. Niinuma Kisora (61)
54. Oota Haruka (60)
I'm not exactly sure how Kassa went up there to 10th place, but hey, I take it. She's been working it. Overall maybe Funakki should have been up there, but I realized just now that neither Funakki nor Karin are in the sorter. Probably would have gone to Funakki otherwise.
So yeah, pretty much everybody who has graduated is not in the sorter, which also means no Murotan or Kobushi.
When it comes to the last 10 I think it's a bit unfair to Shion, Utano and Rin, I feel like I only got them once or twice in the sorter. I don't hate them. I do dislike the others, though.
Rankings in groups
I did look at my sorter for this, but I have adjusted a few of them to my own liking.
And, as always, I'm gonna use my coloured ranking: Like a lot - like - okay - don't care - go away
Morning Musume. '20
1. Haga Akane (-)
2. Yokoyama Reina (-)
3. Kitagawa Rio (-)
4. Yamazaki Mei (8)
5. Makino Maria (-)
6. Ishida Ayumi (7)
7. Okamura Homare (4)
8. Kaga Kaede (6)
9. Sato Masaki (10)
10. Oda Sakura (11)
11. Ikuta Erina (9)
12. Nonaka Miki (-)
13. Fukumura Mizuki (-)
14. Morito Chisaki (-)
There's a few things that come to mind when looking at this. First of all, Masaki is slowly going up there. Second of all, while I am tired of most 11th gen and older members, I don't mind Ayumi that much - I do think she's way over her prime, but I still like her better than the others.
Mei and Homare pretty much switched, but I really like both. And while Ikuta went down by one, I don't dislike her either.
While I am happy for Miki to finally get some attention I also don't really like her. I don't know. She's shy, that's okay, but you should break out after being shy for 6 years.
ANGERME
1. Takeuchi Akari (3)
2. Kamikokuryo Moe (-)
3. Funaki Musubu (6)
4. Kasahara Momona (7)
5. Matsumoto Wakana (new)
6. Sasaki Rikako (5)
7. Murota Mizuki (10)
8. Kawamura Ayano (9)
9. Ise Layla (8)
10. Kawana Rin (new)
11. Tamenaga Shion (new)
12. Hashisako Rin (11)
13. Oota Haruka
Guess who's ready for Wakana?
While a lot of them have changed positions it's not really much, usually only one or two steps. I did add Funakki, Murotan and Oota manually. And yeah, Oota was not a loss for me at all, sorry. The jury is still out on Hashi-Rin. I don't know what to make of her.
Juice=Juice
1. Kanazawa Tomoko (-)
2. Dambara Ruru (4)
3. Takagi Sayuki (5)
4. Uemura Akari (6)
5. Miyamoto Karin (8)
6. Inaba Manaka (10)
7. Matsunaga Riai (-)
8. Inoue Rei (new)
9. Kudo Yume (-)
I'm not feeling Rei in Juice. It's probably because she has not performed with them that much yet, because in the beginning I didn't feel Yanamin either. (By the way, can you believe last year this ranking still had Yuka and Yanamin? Crazy, I know. Because of this not much has changed actually, just remember that Yuka was my 2nd last year and Yanamin my 3rd lol).
I kind of found some new respect for Karin, and I finally realized that Manaka is still a damn good performer. Riai and Yume are a bit too green for now - especially Yume, who seems too bouncy for Juice, at least to me.
I could add Kobushi here, but, eh. It's been pretty much the same ranking forever. Hirose, Nomura, Inoue, Wada, Hamaura. There.
Sad they're gone, sadder they had to go without audience. Good for Ayapan to start her solo career, hope Sakurako is happy in normal life, kind of think Hamachan made a mistake with leaving Up Front, bummed that Minami is stuck in limbo and... yeah, not feeling Rei in Juice yet, as said.
Tsubaki Factory
1. Kishimoto Yumeno (-)
2. Ogata Risa (-)
3. Akiyama Mao (4)
4. Ono Mizuho (3)
5. Asakura Kiki (-)
6. Onoda Saori (-)
7. Tanimoto Ami (-)
8. Yamagishi Riko (9)
9. Niinuma Kisora (8)
"Why the hell is Risa still up there?"
Don't get me wrong: What she did was dumb. But it was also one of the most interesting things to ever come out of this group! Other than that this all broke down towards the end of the year, and for the rest she was still doing fine.
I honestly don't care for half of the group. They could pull a Kobushi and continue the group as 5 and they would be better. I mean okay, Risa won't come back so they'd still have to keep Saori I guess. Fine, then.
Beyooooonds
1. Hirai Miyo (2)
2. Takase Kurumi (1)
3. Kobayashi Honoka (6)
4. Okamura Minami (5)
5. Kiyono Momohime (11)
6. Shimakura Rika (9)
7. Nishida Shiori (3)
8. Yamazaki Yuhane (7)
9. Maeda Kokoro (4)
10. Ichioka Reina (-)
11. Eguchi Saya (8)
12. Satoyoshi Utano (-)
Ranking Beyooooonds is a mess lol. Kurumi was a fave of mine from the start, and I really enjoyed Miyo's singing this year (and dancing of course). Honoka and Mii shined during the Beyooooonds' School during the lockdown imo. I still like the others, I honestly don't dislike anyone here. Beyooooonds is one of the best balanced groups in H!P ever.
Overall ranking:
1. Kanazawa Tomoko (-)
2. Haga Akane (-)
3. Yokoyama Reina (-)
4. Takeuchi Akari (8)
5. Dambara Ruru (-)
6. Takagi Sayuki (?)
7. Kishimoto Yumeno (6)
8. Hirai Miyo (?)
9. Kamikokuryo Moe (7)
10. Kasahara Momona (?)
- - -
45. Fukumura Mizuki (57)
46. Tamenaga Shion (new)
47. Morito Chisaki (58)
48. Satoyoshi Utano (?)
49. Onoda Saori (54)
50. Hashisako Rin (?)
51. Tanimoto Ami (55)
52. Yamagishi Riko (62)
53. Niinuma Kisora (61)
54. Oota Haruka (60)
I'm not exactly sure how Kassa went up there to 10th place, but hey, I take it. She's been working it. Overall maybe Funakki should have been up there, but I realized just now that neither Funakki nor Karin are in the sorter. Probably would have gone to Funakki otherwise.
So yeah, pretty much everybody who has graduated is not in the sorter, which also means no Murotan or Kobushi.
When it comes to the last 10 I think it's a bit unfair to Shion, Utano and Rin, I feel like I only got them once or twice in the sorter. I don't hate them. I do dislike the others, though.
Rankings in groups
I did look at my sorter for this, but I have adjusted a few of them to my own liking.
And, as always, I'm gonna use my coloured ranking: Like a lot - like - okay - don't care - go away
Morning Musume. '20
1. Haga Akane (-)
2. Yokoyama Reina (-)
3. Kitagawa Rio (-)
4. Yamazaki Mei (8)
5. Makino Maria (-)
6. Ishida Ayumi (7)
7. Okamura Homare (4)
8. Kaga Kaede (6)
9. Sato Masaki (10)
10. Oda Sakura (11)
11. Ikuta Erina (9)
12. Nonaka Miki (-)
13. Fukumura Mizuki (-)
14. Morito Chisaki (-)
There's a few things that come to mind when looking at this. First of all, Masaki is slowly going up there. Second of all, while I am tired of most 11th gen and older members, I don't mind Ayumi that much - I do think she's way over her prime, but I still like her better than the others.
Mei and Homare pretty much switched, but I really like both. And while Ikuta went down by one, I don't dislike her either.
While I am happy for Miki to finally get some attention I also don't really like her. I don't know. She's shy, that's okay, but you should break out after being shy for 6 years.
ANGERME
1. Takeuchi Akari (3)
2. Kamikokuryo Moe (-)
3. Funaki Musubu (6)
4. Kasahara Momona (7)
5. Matsumoto Wakana (new)
6. Sasaki Rikako (5)
7. Murota Mizuki (10)
8. Kawamura Ayano (9)
9. Ise Layla (8)
10. Kawana Rin (new)
11. Tamenaga Shion (new)
12. Hashisako Rin (11)
13. Oota Haruka
Guess who's ready for Wakana?
While a lot of them have changed positions it's not really much, usually only one or two steps. I did add Funakki, Murotan and Oota manually. And yeah, Oota was not a loss for me at all, sorry. The jury is still out on Hashi-Rin. I don't know what to make of her.
Juice=Juice
1. Kanazawa Tomoko (-)
2. Dambara Ruru (4)
3. Takagi Sayuki (5)
4. Uemura Akari (6)
5. Miyamoto Karin (8)
6. Inaba Manaka (10)
7. Matsunaga Riai (-)
8. Inoue Rei (new)
9. Kudo Yume (-)
I'm not feeling Rei in Juice. It's probably because she has not performed with them that much yet, because in the beginning I didn't feel Yanamin either. (By the way, can you believe last year this ranking still had Yuka and Yanamin? Crazy, I know. Because of this not much has changed actually, just remember that Yuka was my 2nd last year and Yanamin my 3rd lol).
I kind of found some new respect for Karin, and I finally realized that Manaka is still a damn good performer. Riai and Yume are a bit too green for now - especially Yume, who seems too bouncy for Juice, at least to me.
I could add Kobushi here, but, eh. It's been pretty much the same ranking forever. Hirose, Nomura, Inoue, Wada, Hamaura. There.
Sad they're gone, sadder they had to go without audience. Good for Ayapan to start her solo career, hope Sakurako is happy in normal life, kind of think Hamachan made a mistake with leaving Up Front, bummed that Minami is stuck in limbo and... yeah, not feeling Rei in Juice yet, as said.
Tsubaki Factory
1. Kishimoto Yumeno (-)
2. Ogata Risa (-)
3. Akiyama Mao (4)
4. Ono Mizuho (3)
5. Asakura Kiki (-)
6. Onoda Saori (-)
7. Tanimoto Ami (-)
8. Yamagishi Riko (9)
9. Niinuma Kisora (8)
"Why the hell is Risa still up there?"
Don't get me wrong: What she did was dumb. But it was also one of the most interesting things to ever come out of this group! Other than that this all broke down towards the end of the year, and for the rest she was still doing fine.
I honestly don't care for half of the group. They could pull a Kobushi and continue the group as 5 and they would be better. I mean okay, Risa won't come back so they'd still have to keep Saori I guess. Fine, then.
Beyooooonds
1. Hirai Miyo (2)
2. Takase Kurumi (1)
3. Kobayashi Honoka (6)
4. Okamura Minami (5)
5. Kiyono Momohime (11)
6. Shimakura Rika (9)
7. Nishida Shiori (3)
8. Yamazaki Yuhane (7)
9. Maeda Kokoro (4)
10. Ichioka Reina (-)
11. Eguchi Saya (8)
12. Satoyoshi Utano (-)
Ranking Beyooooonds is a mess lol. Kurumi was a fave of mine from the start, and I really enjoyed Miyo's singing this year (and dancing of course). Honoka and Mii shined during the Beyooooonds' School during the lockdown imo. I still like the others, I honestly don't dislike anyone here. Beyooooonds is one of the best balanced groups in H!P ever.
Last edited by DonJuan on Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
<div>My 2020 Ranking (My yearly chart.)</div>
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I purposely let Oota slip to last place because she's pretty much not active and only active girls should be ranked.
I got a few surprises this year as far as Beyooooonds members rising very drastically compared to last year. Overall I think a lot of the bias in my ranks comes from the solo lives. I think it's the first time in a very long time where we really get to see each girl stand on their own and I used that more in the basis in where I decided to rank them in the overall H!P rank.
</div>
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<div> </div>
<div>Overall Group Ranking for 2020</div>
<div>My group ranks have two criteria. How they perform as a group and second, did they excel in the current year?
Juice=Juice has continued to dominate for me. They got rid of their dead weight. The loss of Karin stings, but the fact that I still had some solid love in other members made the sting not so bad. (Unlike ANGERME, which is still suffering in my rankings.) While Beyooooonds didn't get much to do this year, they proved themselves by keeping themselves relevant through covid but using their YouTube channel to their advantage and letting me get to know each girl and learning their strong points. It's something I wish other groups would do because then maybe I'd like certain girls better. Tsubaki fell drastically. They were such a great group that suffered greatly this year because of Ogata-gate AND their giant hole left over from 2019 thanks to Kiki. So much so I ranked ANGERME above them and I'm still not particularly fond of ANGERME as a group right now, but the fact they are trying their best to work on their post-mass-grad self is what edged them out over Tsubaki. </div>
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<div>Morning Musume'20</div>
<div>Oda will always dominate, but now that I have Rio I can safely say that if Sakura would leave, I have a replacement oshi waiting in the wings with Kaga as my #2. I couldn't say that post Kago and it took me years to really find someone I liked enough to give a solid #1 space too. But Rio has really grown on me. From Haga to Homare is the, I like you, but I don't really have a the perfect place to rank you. Ikuta and Morito will forever hold my bottom two spots. And honestly, I wouldn't be sad to see either one of them leave.</div>
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<div> </div>
<div>ANGERME</div>
<div>I NEVER put new members who haven't proven themselves, THIS HIGH in a ranking but I am throwing every LAST BIT of ANGERME love I have into Wakana. And it's not much.
I hope 2021 and puberty treat her well. Now, with that said, I think Layla has really grown on me. She's become so reliable and getting so much better as an Idol.
I really have nothing else to add other than, I find it funny that I placed the two Rin's together. It's too early to tell where Kawana will really rank, but I can tell she's got more presence than H.Rin and that's not very hard to do. I know she tries, but damn, H.Rin has been in the group for over a year. I expected more progress. I really hope next year with the newbies under her, will light a fire under H.Rin's ass because she needs to glow up or move on.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Juice=Juice</div>
<div>My flawless queens, there is not wrong with any of them, except maybe Kudo, but it's hard to be perfect next to someone like Ruru, Sayuki or even Karin. With Karin gone by fight over who I loved more, Sayuki or Karin has left me less stressed. Also, I'm even not hating Inoue, and Inoue was always middle of the road/least favorite in Kobushi. She fits so well into the group that I keep forgetting she was in Kobushi this year! I look forward to seeing more of her. Her little beatbox interlude during Karin's grad concert is really what made me rank her above Kudo. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Tsubaki Factory</div>
<div>Yumeno is honestly one of the only members I really care about and that's sad considering the size of the group. I really liked Tsubaki in years past, but the past two years it's just, meh? They never really did anything to stand out for me other than being a foil to Kobushi. And with Kobushi one I guess I finally just see them as they are and they really come off as a group just going through the motions right now. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>BEYOOOOONDS</div>
<div>This group got shafted this year royally. But they made the best of it, and did the best they could given the circumstances. I hope UF goes on a full out attack in 2021 with them. SO many talented girls in this group that I dread seeing anyone in my top 10 graduating and I'd be extremely upset if anyone in my top 5 left. I love Miyo, Honoka, Yuhane really shined this year. Momohime is amazing. Etc for other girls. I think the only ones I really would put into my, if they graduated tomorrow, I wouldn't care pile would be Reina and Utano.
</div>
<div>
I purposely let Oota slip to last place because she's pretty much not active and only active girls should be ranked.
I got a few surprises this year as far as Beyooooonds members rising very drastically compared to last year. Overall I think a lot of the bias in my ranks comes from the solo lives. I think it's the first time in a very long time where we really get to see each girl stand on their own and I used that more in the basis in where I decided to rank them in the overall H!P rank.
</div>
- Oda Sakura
- Danbara Ruru
- Takagi Sayuki
- Kitagawa Rio
- Hirai Miyo
- Kaga Kaede
- Kobayashi Honoka
- Inaba Manaka
- Yamazaki Yuhane
- Kishimoto Yumeno
- Kiyono Momohime
- Haga Akane
- Matsumoto Wakana
- Fukumura Mizuki
- Shimakura Rika
- Okamura Minami
- Ise Layla
- Nishida Shiori
- Sato Masaki
- Matsunaga Riai
- Yokoyama Reina
- Takeuchi Akari
- Nonaka Miki
- Ishida Ayumi
- Kanazawa Tomoko
- Uemura Akari
- Sasaki Rikako
- Inoue Rei
- Eguchi Saya
- Kawamura Ayano
- Yamazaki Mei
- Takase Kurumi
- Kamikokuryo Moe
- Ono Mizuho
- Onoda Saori
- Maeda Kokoro
- Tamenaga Shion
- Tanimoto Ami
- Kudo Yume
- Ogata Risa
- Asakura Kiki
- Makino Maria
- Okamura Homare
- Kasahara Momona
- Niinuma Kisora
- Yamagishi Riko
- Akiyama Mao
- Ikuta Erina
- Morito Chisaki
- Ichioka Reina
- Satoyoshi Utano
- Kawana Rin
- Hashisako Rin
- Oota Haruka
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Overall Group Ranking for 2020</div>
<div>My group ranks have two criteria. How they perform as a group and second, did they excel in the current year?
Juice=Juice has continued to dominate for me. They got rid of their dead weight. The loss of Karin stings, but the fact that I still had some solid love in other members made the sting not so bad. (Unlike ANGERME, which is still suffering in my rankings.) While Beyooooonds didn't get much to do this year, they proved themselves by keeping themselves relevant through covid but using their YouTube channel to their advantage and letting me get to know each girl and learning their strong points. It's something I wish other groups would do because then maybe I'd like certain girls better. Tsubaki fell drastically. They were such a great group that suffered greatly this year because of Ogata-gate AND their giant hole left over from 2019 thanks to Kiki. So much so I ranked ANGERME above them and I'm still not particularly fond of ANGERME as a group right now, but the fact they are trying their best to work on their post-mass-grad self is what edged them out over Tsubaki. </div>
<div> </div>
- Juice=Juice
- BEYOOOOONDS
- Morning Musume'20
- ANGERME
- Tsubaki Factory
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Morning Musume'20</div>
<div>Oda will always dominate, but now that I have Rio I can safely say that if Sakura would leave, I have a replacement oshi waiting in the wings with Kaga as my #2. I couldn't say that post Kago and it took me years to really find someone I liked enough to give a solid #1 space too. But Rio has really grown on me. From Haga to Homare is the, I like you, but I don't really have a the perfect place to rank you. Ikuta and Morito will forever hold my bottom two spots. And honestly, I wouldn't be sad to see either one of them leave.</div>
<div> </div>
- Oda Sakura
- Kitagawa Rio
- Kaga Kaede
- Haga Akane
- Fukumura Mizuki
- Sato Masaki
- Yokoyama Reina
- Nonaka Miki
- Ishida Ayumi
- Yamazaki Mei
- Makino Maria
- Okamura Homare
- Ikuta Erina
- Morito Chisaki
<div> </div>
<div>ANGERME</div>
<div>I NEVER put new members who haven't proven themselves, THIS HIGH in a ranking but I am throwing every LAST BIT of ANGERME love I have into Wakana. And it's not much.
I hope 2021 and puberty treat her well. Now, with that said, I think Layla has really grown on me. She's become so reliable and getting so much better as an Idol.
I really have nothing else to add other than, I find it funny that I placed the two Rin's together. It's too early to tell where Kawana will really rank, but I can tell she's got more presence than H.Rin and that's not very hard to do. I know she tries, but damn, H.Rin has been in the group for over a year. I expected more progress. I really hope next year with the newbies under her, will light a fire under H.Rin's ass because she needs to glow up or move on.
</div>
- Matsumoto Wakana
- Ise Layla
- Takeuchi Akari
- Sasaki Rikako
- Kawamura Ayano
- Kamikokuryo Moe
- Tamenaga Shion
- Kasahara Momona
- Kawana Rin
- Hashisako Rin
<div> </div>
<div>Juice=Juice</div>
<div>My flawless queens, there is not wrong with any of them, except maybe Kudo, but it's hard to be perfect next to someone like Ruru, Sayuki or even Karin. With Karin gone by fight over who I loved more, Sayuki or Karin has left me less stressed. Also, I'm even not hating Inoue, and Inoue was always middle of the road/least favorite in Kobushi. She fits so well into the group that I keep forgetting she was in Kobushi this year! I look forward to seeing more of her. Her little beatbox interlude during Karin's grad concert is really what made me rank her above Kudo. </div>
<div> </div>
- Danbara Ruru
- Takagi Sayuki
- Inaba Manaka
- Matsunaga Riai
- Kanazawa Tomoko
- Uemura Akari
- Inoue Rei
- Kudo Yume
<div> </div>
<div>Tsubaki Factory</div>
<div>Yumeno is honestly one of the only members I really care about and that's sad considering the size of the group. I really liked Tsubaki in years past, but the past two years it's just, meh? They never really did anything to stand out for me other than being a foil to Kobushi. And with Kobushi one I guess I finally just see them as they are and they really come off as a group just going through the motions right now. </div>
<div> </div>
- Kishimoto Yumeno
- Ono Mizuho
- Onoda Saori
- Tanimoto Ami
- Ogata Risa
- Asakura Kiki
- Niinuma Kisora
- Yamagishi Riko
- Akiyama Mao
<div> </div>
<div>BEYOOOOONDS</div>
<div>This group got shafted this year royally. But they made the best of it, and did the best they could given the circumstances. I hope UF goes on a full out attack in 2021 with them. SO many talented girls in this group that I dread seeing anyone in my top 10 graduating and I'd be extremely upset if anyone in my top 5 left. I love Miyo, Honoka, Yuhane really shined this year. Momohime is amazing. Etc for other girls. I think the only ones I really would put into my, if they graduated tomorrow, I wouldn't care pile would be Reina and Utano.
</div>
- Hirai Miyo
- Kobayashi Honoka
- Yamazaki Yuhane
- Kiyono Momohime
- Shimakura Rika
- Okamura Minami
- Nishida Shiori
- Eguchi Saya
- Takase Kurumi
- Maeda Kokoro
- Ichioka Reina
- Satoyoshi Utano
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Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
<div>I think this is the first time I've ever done this, so I'm gonna follow DonJuan's format (minus the color-coded names. Ain't nobody got time for that!) I used the sorter, then broke ties, then rearranged others after that.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Top and Bottom 10:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>1 Sayuki Takagi</div>
<div>2 Akari Takeuchi</div>
<div>3 Ruru Danbara</div>
<div>4 Kiyono Momomohime</div>
<div>5 Masaki Sato</div>
<div>6 Yumeno Kishimoto</div>
<div>7 Miyo Hirai</div>
<div>8 Tomoko Kanazawa</div>
<div>9 Akari Uemura</div>
<div>10 Kawamura Ayano</div>
<div>----------------</div>
<div>45 Ikuta Erina</div>
<div>46 Saori Onoda</div>
<div>47 Satoyoshi Utano</div>
<div>48 Hashisako Rin</div>
<div>49 Mizuho Ono</div>
<div>50 Rin Kawana</div>
<div>51 Shion Tamenaga</div>
<div>52 Chisaki Morito</div>
<div>53 Risa Ogata</div>
<div>54 Haruka Oota</div>
<div> </div>
<div>No surprise that my top 10 are all strong singers, with the surprise exception of Ayano, who surged to number 10 based on Anju's recent performances. I didn't include Funaki or Karin, both of whom would've been top-10 had I done so.</div>
<div>The bottom is a collection of those I either don't like, have grown tired of, or simply never really noticed, lol. I was much tougher on Risa than DJ.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Group Rankings</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Morning Musume '20</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Masaki Sato</div>
<div>Sakura Oda</div>
<div>Rio Kitagawa</div>
<div>Kaede Kaga</div>
<div>Mei Yamazaki</div>
<div>Akane Haga</div>
<div>Reina Yokoyama</div>
<div>Homare Okamura</div>
<div>Miki Nonaka</div>
<div>Mizuki Fukumura</div>
<div>Ayumi Ishida</div>
<div>Maria Makino</div>
<div>Ikuta Erina</div>
<div>Chisaki Morito</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Maa is still the most interesting member of MM for me, and Oda's voice is undeniable. I'd really like the rest of the 9/10kis to hit the road, though, because they're boring me now. A top-trio of Maa-Kaga-Rio is a nice past-present-future to anchor the group, with Miki-Mei as seconds, and sprinkle in the rest to taste. I still have no idea what purpose Chisaki serves, though.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Angerme</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Akari Takeuchi</div>
<div>Kawamura Ayano</div>
<div>Rikako Sasaki</div>
<div>Kamikokuryo Moe</div>
<div>Layla Ise</div>
<div>Momona Kasahara</div>
<div>Wakana Matsumoto</div>
<div>Hashisako Rin</div>
<div>Rin Kawana</div>
<div>Shion Tamenaga</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Takeuchi is the rare long-term idol who I hope sticks around for years longer. She's really good at everything -- to the point where I wonder if H!P fans underrate her -- and her group really needs her, IMO. I'm probably holding on to old biases with Rikako, but I've seen others plateau or slip a little only to bust out later, and I'm hoping that's what happens for her. I'm very high on Layla and Momona for the immediate future, and Wakana's ceiling seems limitless right now.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Juice = Juice</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sayuki Takagi</div>
<div>Ruru Danbara</div>
<div>Tomoko Kanazawa</div>
<div>Akari Uemura</div>
<div>Inaba Manaka</div>
<div>Rei Inoue</div>
<div>Riai Matsunaga</div>
<div>Yume Kudo</div>
<div> </div>
<div>My favorite H!P group, as evidenced by half of the members placing in my overall Top-10, and had Karin not left, the group would have made up literally half of the Top-10. Kudo is their only weak-link, and she's not even that bad. Riai looks like she's gonna be a good one, based on how comfortable she looks already at 15. Ruru would be my favorite singer in any group other than J=J.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Tsubaki Factory</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Yumeno Kishimoto</div>
<div>Kiki Asakura</div>
<div>Mao Akiyama</div>
<div>Kisora Niinuma</div>
<div>Riko Yamagishi</div>
<div>Ami Tanimoto</div>
<div>Saori Onoda</div>
<div>Mizuho Ono</div>
<div>Risa Ogata</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Take this one with a grain of salt, because make no mistake, this ranking is my Top-3 and then pull names from a hat. Risa would've placed 4th had she not hung her group-mates out to dry like she did. Kishimon has become a reliably good singer in a group of poor singers, and I wonder how good she might have become had she joined, say, Anju or J=J instead?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>BEYOOOOONDS</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kiyono Momomohime</div>
<div>Miyo Hirai</div>
<div>Maeda Kokoro</div>
<div>Honoka Kobayashi</div>
<div>Rika Shimakura</div>
<div>Saya Eguchi</div>
<div>Minami Okamura</div>
<div>Shiori Nishida</div>
<div>Yuhane Yamazaki</div>
<div>Reina Ichioka</div>
<div>Kurumi Takase</div>
<div>Satoyoshi Utano</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Another group where I don't know enough about some members to rank them knowledgably, although not so much as Tsubaki. You don't really need to know everyone to see that this is a really strong group overall, though. Momohime is a really exciting singer who, if she can learn to control her voice, could become great -- and I don't mean "for an idol," either.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Top and Bottom 10:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>1 Sayuki Takagi</div>
<div>2 Akari Takeuchi</div>
<div>3 Ruru Danbara</div>
<div>4 Kiyono Momomohime</div>
<div>5 Masaki Sato</div>
<div>6 Yumeno Kishimoto</div>
<div>7 Miyo Hirai</div>
<div>8 Tomoko Kanazawa</div>
<div>9 Akari Uemura</div>
<div>10 Kawamura Ayano</div>
<div>----------------</div>
<div>45 Ikuta Erina</div>
<div>46 Saori Onoda</div>
<div>47 Satoyoshi Utano</div>
<div>48 Hashisako Rin</div>
<div>49 Mizuho Ono</div>
<div>50 Rin Kawana</div>
<div>51 Shion Tamenaga</div>
<div>52 Chisaki Morito</div>
<div>53 Risa Ogata</div>
<div>54 Haruka Oota</div>
<div> </div>
<div>No surprise that my top 10 are all strong singers, with the surprise exception of Ayano, who surged to number 10 based on Anju's recent performances. I didn't include Funaki or Karin, both of whom would've been top-10 had I done so.</div>
<div>The bottom is a collection of those I either don't like, have grown tired of, or simply never really noticed, lol. I was much tougher on Risa than DJ.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Group Rankings</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Morning Musume '20</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Masaki Sato</div>
<div>Sakura Oda</div>
<div>Rio Kitagawa</div>
<div>Kaede Kaga</div>
<div>Mei Yamazaki</div>
<div>Akane Haga</div>
<div>Reina Yokoyama</div>
<div>Homare Okamura</div>
<div>Miki Nonaka</div>
<div>Mizuki Fukumura</div>
<div>Ayumi Ishida</div>
<div>Maria Makino</div>
<div>Ikuta Erina</div>
<div>Chisaki Morito</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Maa is still the most interesting member of MM for me, and Oda's voice is undeniable. I'd really like the rest of the 9/10kis to hit the road, though, because they're boring me now. A top-trio of Maa-Kaga-Rio is a nice past-present-future to anchor the group, with Miki-Mei as seconds, and sprinkle in the rest to taste. I still have no idea what purpose Chisaki serves, though.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Angerme</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Akari Takeuchi</div>
<div>Kawamura Ayano</div>
<div>Rikako Sasaki</div>
<div>Kamikokuryo Moe</div>
<div>Layla Ise</div>
<div>Momona Kasahara</div>
<div>Wakana Matsumoto</div>
<div>Hashisako Rin</div>
<div>Rin Kawana</div>
<div>Shion Tamenaga</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Takeuchi is the rare long-term idol who I hope sticks around for years longer. She's really good at everything -- to the point where I wonder if H!P fans underrate her -- and her group really needs her, IMO. I'm probably holding on to old biases with Rikako, but I've seen others plateau or slip a little only to bust out later, and I'm hoping that's what happens for her. I'm very high on Layla and Momona for the immediate future, and Wakana's ceiling seems limitless right now.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Juice = Juice</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sayuki Takagi</div>
<div>Ruru Danbara</div>
<div>Tomoko Kanazawa</div>
<div>Akari Uemura</div>
<div>Inaba Manaka</div>
<div>Rei Inoue</div>
<div>Riai Matsunaga</div>
<div>Yume Kudo</div>
<div> </div>
<div>My favorite H!P group, as evidenced by half of the members placing in my overall Top-10, and had Karin not left, the group would have made up literally half of the Top-10. Kudo is their only weak-link, and she's not even that bad. Riai looks like she's gonna be a good one, based on how comfortable she looks already at 15. Ruru would be my favorite singer in any group other than J=J.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Tsubaki Factory</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Yumeno Kishimoto</div>
<div>Kiki Asakura</div>
<div>Mao Akiyama</div>
<div>Kisora Niinuma</div>
<div>Riko Yamagishi</div>
<div>Ami Tanimoto</div>
<div>Saori Onoda</div>
<div>Mizuho Ono</div>
<div>Risa Ogata</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Take this one with a grain of salt, because make no mistake, this ranking is my Top-3 and then pull names from a hat. Risa would've placed 4th had she not hung her group-mates out to dry like she did. Kishimon has become a reliably good singer in a group of poor singers, and I wonder how good she might have become had she joined, say, Anju or J=J instead?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>BEYOOOOONDS</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kiyono Momomohime</div>
<div>Miyo Hirai</div>
<div>Maeda Kokoro</div>
<div>Honoka Kobayashi</div>
<div>Rika Shimakura</div>
<div>Saya Eguchi</div>
<div>Minami Okamura</div>
<div>Shiori Nishida</div>
<div>Yuhane Yamazaki</div>
<div>Reina Ichioka</div>
<div>Kurumi Takase</div>
<div>Satoyoshi Utano</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Another group where I don't know enough about some members to rank them knowledgably, although not so much as Tsubaki. You don't really need to know everyone to see that this is a really strong group overall, though. Momohime is a really exciting singer who, if she can learn to control her voice, could become great -- and I don't mean "for an idol," either.</div>
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Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
Looks like I've been doing this for a very long time
Archives: 2019 / 2018 / 2017 / 2015 / 2014 / 2011
1. Yokoyama Reina (2019: #1 / 2018: #1 / 2017: #5)
2. Kamikokuryou Moe (2019: 2 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #1)
3. Dambara Ruru (2019: #3 / 2018: #7 / 2017: #12):
4. Takagi Sayuki (2019: #17 / 2018: #17 / 2017: #13 / 2015: #2)
5. Sasaki Rikako (2019: #4 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #2 / 2015: #7)
6. Takeuchi Akari (2019: #5 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #10 / 2015: #21 / 2014: #24)
7. Kishimoto Yumeno (2019: #9 / 2018: #5 / 2017: #3)
8. Ise Layla (2019: #8):
9. Haga Akane (2019: #5 / 2018: #5 / 2017: #6 / 2015: #41)
10. Kobayashi Honoka (2019: #40) Surprise appearance by Kobayashi. I guess with Funaki's graduation, the spot was up for grabs.
Full list:
[spoilerbox]1位 横山玲奈 モーニング娘。 '20
2位 上國料萌衣 アンジュルム
3位 段原瑠々 Juice=Juice
4位 高木紗友希 Juice=Juice
5位 佐々木莉佳子 アンジュルム
6位 竹内朱莉 アンジュルム
7位 岸本ゆめの つばきファクトリー
8位 伊勢鈴蘭 アンジュルム
9位 羽賀朱音 モーニング娘。 '20
10位 小林萌花 BEYOOOOONDS
11位 小田さくら モーニング娘。 '20
12位 平井美葉 BEYOOOOONDS
13位 生田衣梨奈 モーニング娘。 '20
13位 植村あかり Juice=Juice
15位 北川莉央 モーニング娘。 '20
16位 加賀楓 モーニング娘。 '20
17位 川村文乃 アンジュルム
17位 石田亜佑美 モーニング娘。 '20
19位 小野瑞歩 つばきファクトリー
20位 笠原桃奈 アンジュルム
21位 山﨑夢羽 雨ノ森 川海
22位 佐藤優樹 モーニング娘。 '20
23位 井上玲音 Juice=Juice
24位 前田こころ 雨ノ森 川海
25位 西田汐里 CHICA#TETSU
26位 小片リサ つばきファクトリー
27位 秋山眞緒 つばきファクトリー
28位 松永里愛 Juice=Juice
29位 一岡伶奈 CHICA#TETSU
29位 金澤朋子 Juice=Juice
31位 岡村ほまれ モーニング娘。 '20
32位 島倉りか CHICA#TETSU
33位 清野桃々姫 雨ノ森 川海
34位 江口紗耶 CHICA#TETSU
35位 譜久村聖 モーニング娘。 '20
35位 浅倉樹々 つばきファクトリー
37位 野中美希 モーニング娘。 '20
38位 森戸知沙希 モーニング娘。 '20
38位 稲場愛香 Juice=Juice
40位 山﨑愛生 モーニング娘。 '20
41位 高瀬くるみ 雨ノ森 川海
42位 里吉うたの BEYOOOOONDS
43位 工藤由愛 Juice=Juice
44位 川名凜 アンジュルム
44位 松本わかな アンジュルム
46位 小野田紗栞 つばきファクトリー
46位 岡村美波 雨ノ森 川海
48位 牧野真莉愛 モーニング娘。 '20
48位 新沼希空 つばきファクトリー
50位 為永幸音 アンジュルム
51位 谷本安美 つばきファクトリー
52位 橋迫鈴 アンジュルム
53位 山岸理子 つばきファクトリー
53位 太田遥香 Hello! Project[/spoilerbox]
Archives: 2019 / 2018 / 2017 / 2015 / 2014 / 2011
1. Yokoyama Reina (2019: #1 / 2018: #1 / 2017: #5)
2. Kamikokuryou Moe (2019: 2 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #1)
3. Dambara Ruru (2019: #3 / 2018: #7 / 2017: #12):
4. Takagi Sayuki (2019: #17 / 2018: #17 / 2017: #13 / 2015: #2)
5. Sasaki Rikako (2019: #4 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #2 / 2015: #7)
6. Takeuchi Akari (2019: #5 / 2018: #2 / 2017: #10 / 2015: #21 / 2014: #24)
7. Kishimoto Yumeno (2019: #9 / 2018: #5 / 2017: #3)
8. Ise Layla (2019: #8):
9. Haga Akane (2019: #5 / 2018: #5 / 2017: #6 / 2015: #41)
10. Kobayashi Honoka (2019: #40) Surprise appearance by Kobayashi. I guess with Funaki's graduation, the spot was up for grabs.
Full list:
[spoilerbox]1位 横山玲奈 モーニング娘。 '20
2位 上國料萌衣 アンジュルム
3位 段原瑠々 Juice=Juice
4位 高木紗友希 Juice=Juice
5位 佐々木莉佳子 アンジュルム
6位 竹内朱莉 アンジュルム
7位 岸本ゆめの つばきファクトリー
8位 伊勢鈴蘭 アンジュルム
9位 羽賀朱音 モーニング娘。 '20
10位 小林萌花 BEYOOOOONDS
11位 小田さくら モーニング娘。 '20
12位 平井美葉 BEYOOOOONDS
13位 生田衣梨奈 モーニング娘。 '20
13位 植村あかり Juice=Juice
15位 北川莉央 モーニング娘。 '20
16位 加賀楓 モーニング娘。 '20
17位 川村文乃 アンジュルム
17位 石田亜佑美 モーニング娘。 '20
19位 小野瑞歩 つばきファクトリー
20位 笠原桃奈 アンジュルム
21位 山﨑夢羽 雨ノ森 川海
22位 佐藤優樹 モーニング娘。 '20
23位 井上玲音 Juice=Juice
24位 前田こころ 雨ノ森 川海
25位 西田汐里 CHICA#TETSU
26位 小片リサ つばきファクトリー
27位 秋山眞緒 つばきファクトリー
28位 松永里愛 Juice=Juice
29位 一岡伶奈 CHICA#TETSU
29位 金澤朋子 Juice=Juice
31位 岡村ほまれ モーニング娘。 '20
32位 島倉りか CHICA#TETSU
33位 清野桃々姫 雨ノ森 川海
34位 江口紗耶 CHICA#TETSU
35位 譜久村聖 モーニング娘。 '20
35位 浅倉樹々 つばきファクトリー
37位 野中美希 モーニング娘。 '20
38位 森戸知沙希 モーニング娘。 '20
38位 稲場愛香 Juice=Juice
40位 山﨑愛生 モーニング娘。 '20
41位 高瀬くるみ 雨ノ森 川海
42位 里吉うたの BEYOOOOONDS
43位 工藤由愛 Juice=Juice
44位 川名凜 アンジュルム
44位 松本わかな アンジュルム
46位 小野田紗栞 つばきファクトリー
46位 岡村美波 雨ノ森 川海
48位 牧野真莉愛 モーニング娘。 '20
48位 新沼希空 つばきファクトリー
50位 為永幸音 アンジュルム
51位 谷本安美 つばきファクトリー
52位 橋迫鈴 アンジュルム
53位 山岸理子 つばきファクトリー
53位 太田遥香 Hello! Project[/spoilerbox]
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<p style="text-align:center;">♥ Rikako ♥ Yumeno ♥ Yokoyan ♥ Kamiko ♥ Kamei ♥ Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
Ah! I forgot about 2011. I guess I need to update my chart.
This is a place where a signature goes. Enjoy some Airi instead.
Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
[quote="Shoujo Q"]
Ah! I forgot about 2011. I guess I need to update my chart.
[/quote]
At the same time, there's only 2 people from this time that are still in H!P lol
Ah! I forgot about 2011. I guess I need to update my chart.
[/quote]
At the same time, there's only 2 people from this time that are still in H!P lol
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<p style="text-align:center;">♥ Rikako ♥ Yumeno ♥ Yokoyan ♥ Kamiko ♥ Kamei ♥ Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
Turns out I did this last year after all, but just within their groups.
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Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
I've seen this trend of guessing the most popular members of each group for Japanese and international fandom on twitter and thought I'd give it a try - here, since I'm not active on twitter.
MM (jp): Masaki, Mizuki, Maria, Chisaki.
I don't really understand Chisaki but she constantly sells well. I've also seen a lot of people mentioning Ayumi, Kaede and Sakura and I think they're the next popular. Rio is catching up of course, but I feel that with the general higher loyality and looking down on oshihen-ing Japanese fandom needs a bit longer to actually put her into the top 3-4 - but hey, maybe she'll top Chisaki.
MM (intl): Masaki, Sakura, Rio, Miki.
International fandom usually catches up on newbies quicker than the Japanese one. Sakura is generally accepted as the best performer in the group, while J fandom seems to value looks more. And lastly, Miki, next in line for singing and she speaks English.
Anju (jp): Kamiko, Rikako, Takechan
Kamiko and Rikako are obviously general public faces and Takechan has been popular since her audition. I do think that a lot of recent grads have dealt a big blow to Anju, since Murotan and Funakki were popular as well.
Anju (intl): Basically... the same. Maybe Takechan before the other two. I also think Layla has been catching up.
Juice (jp): Tomoko, Akari, Manaka
But let's be honest, Karin would have topped all by miles. Until last year I would've put Akari in front of Tomoko but I guess her role as leader and her solo work has gotten Tomoko more attention.
I might be wrong with Manaka, but I think that once again Japanese fandom puts general idol-ness over singing, as why I did not include Sayuki or Ruru in the top ranking. I don't think they're unpopular, but Sayuki especially has always been low in Japanese rankings (despite beinh respected for her talent).
Juice (intl): Ruru, Sayuki, Tomoko
I mean how can you not love Ruru. Once again I think international fandom cares more about talent than (classic) idol looks and rank Sayuki highly. I don't know if 3rd would be Tomoko, or Akari, or maybe even Rei. Judging this from the Europe concerts.
Tsubaki (jp): Kiki, Mizuho, Saori
Kiki is the obvious one - traditionally cute, super white skin, decent performance level. Mizuho was probably the biggest surprise out of the newer members, as she was a bit rounder and darker than the other two, but she has been pushed recently. Saori has to be careful with her boy stories, but otherwise she's a good second Kiki. I do think that Riko and Mao are decently popular as well - Riko probably more so than internationally.
Tsubaki (intl): Yumeno, Mizuho, Kiki
Yumeno is a classic international fave that kind of doesn't do as well in her homeland. She's got darker skin and is louder than the other girls which often clashes with what Japanese wota want. Mizuho and Kiki are well respected. K also think that while Saori is more popular in Japan the international fandom likes Ami and Kisora more.
Beyooooonds (jp): Rika, Yuhane, Shiori
I feel this one is pretty obvious. They have the photobooks and are very idol-like. While I do think that they tried to make Yuhane the ace from the beginning they didn't expect the other two to do that well. Other than that I'm sure Kokoro is also popular, as well as Honoka and Saya - but not on the same level.
Beyooooonds (intl): Miyo, Momohime, Honoka
Weirdly enough this might be the group with the biggest differences in faves. Not saying that the Japanese top 3 aren't popular (though I do think that international fans do not care as much about Yuhane) but in general I feel that they care more about interesting characters than about idol looks.
MM (jp): Masaki, Mizuki, Maria, Chisaki.
I don't really understand Chisaki but she constantly sells well. I've also seen a lot of people mentioning Ayumi, Kaede and Sakura and I think they're the next popular. Rio is catching up of course, but I feel that with the general higher loyality and looking down on oshihen-ing Japanese fandom needs a bit longer to actually put her into the top 3-4 - but hey, maybe she'll top Chisaki.
MM (intl): Masaki, Sakura, Rio, Miki.
International fandom usually catches up on newbies quicker than the Japanese one. Sakura is generally accepted as the best performer in the group, while J fandom seems to value looks more. And lastly, Miki, next in line for singing and she speaks English.
Anju (jp): Kamiko, Rikako, Takechan
Kamiko and Rikako are obviously general public faces and Takechan has been popular since her audition. I do think that a lot of recent grads have dealt a big blow to Anju, since Murotan and Funakki were popular as well.
Anju (intl): Basically... the same. Maybe Takechan before the other two. I also think Layla has been catching up.
Juice (jp): Tomoko, Akari, Manaka
But let's be honest, Karin would have topped all by miles. Until last year I would've put Akari in front of Tomoko but I guess her role as leader and her solo work has gotten Tomoko more attention.
I might be wrong with Manaka, but I think that once again Japanese fandom puts general idol-ness over singing, as why I did not include Sayuki or Ruru in the top ranking. I don't think they're unpopular, but Sayuki especially has always been low in Japanese rankings (despite beinh respected for her talent).
Juice (intl): Ruru, Sayuki, Tomoko
I mean how can you not love Ruru. Once again I think international fandom cares more about talent than (classic) idol looks and rank Sayuki highly. I don't know if 3rd would be Tomoko, or Akari, or maybe even Rei. Judging this from the Europe concerts.
Tsubaki (jp): Kiki, Mizuho, Saori
Kiki is the obvious one - traditionally cute, super white skin, decent performance level. Mizuho was probably the biggest surprise out of the newer members, as she was a bit rounder and darker than the other two, but she has been pushed recently. Saori has to be careful with her boy stories, but otherwise she's a good second Kiki. I do think that Riko and Mao are decently popular as well - Riko probably more so than internationally.
Tsubaki (intl): Yumeno, Mizuho, Kiki
Yumeno is a classic international fave that kind of doesn't do as well in her homeland. She's got darker skin and is louder than the other girls which often clashes with what Japanese wota want. Mizuho and Kiki are well respected. K also think that while Saori is more popular in Japan the international fandom likes Ami and Kisora more.
Beyooooonds (jp): Rika, Yuhane, Shiori
I feel this one is pretty obvious. They have the photobooks and are very idol-like. While I do think that they tried to make Yuhane the ace from the beginning they didn't expect the other two to do that well. Other than that I'm sure Kokoro is also popular, as well as Honoka and Saya - but not on the same level.
Beyooooonds (intl): Miyo, Momohime, Honoka
Weirdly enough this might be the group with the biggest differences in faves. Not saying that the Japanese top 3 aren't popular (though I do think that international fans do not care as much about Yuhane) but in general I feel that they care more about interesting characters than about idol looks.
Re: Hello!Project Members Ranking - End of 2020 edition
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="DonJuan" data-cid="221540" data-time="1609102529">
I've seen this trend of guessing the most popular members of each group for Japanese and international fandom on twitter and thought I'd give it a try - here, since I'm not active on twitter.</blockquote>
I know it's not common to post it on here but there's no rules about it either so here's the Japanese survey's result. Note that the Japanese survey also allowed votes for former members as well as Up Front members.
1. Satou Masaki
2. Kaga Kaede
3. Miyamoto Karin
4. Oda Sakura
5. Takeuchi Akari
6. Kanazawa Tomoko
7. Fukumura Mizuki
8. Funaki Musubu
9. Morito Chisaki
10. Ishida Ayumi
11. Kamikokuryo Moe
12. Ikuta Erina
13. Yamazaki Mei
14. Takagi Sayuki
15. Inaba Manaka
16. Dambara Ruru
16. Ogata Risa
18. Inoue Rei
19. Kitagawa Rio
20. Kawamura Ayano[spoilerbox]
21. Makino Maria
22. Suzuki Airi
23. Ise Layla
24. Michishige Sayumi
25. Nonaka Miki
26. Sasaki Rikako
27. Hamaura Ayano
28. Kasahara Momona
29. Yamazaki Yuhane
29. Hirai Miyo
29. Sayashi Riho
32. Haga Akane
32. Nomura Minami
34. Yokoyama Reina
35. Asakura Kiki
36. Matsunaga Riai
36. Shimakura Rika
38. Okamura Homare
39. Murota Mizuki
40. Nishida Shiori
42. Uemura Akari
42. Kudo Yume
42. Ichioka Reina
42. Kobayashi Honoka
46. Wada Sakurako
46. Satoyoshi Utano
46. Suzuki Kanon
46. Yajima Maimi
50. Hashisako Rin
50. Eguchi Saya
50. Maeda Kokoro
53. Yamagishi Riko
54. Niinuma Kisora
55. Yamaki Risa
56. Miyazaki Yuka
57. Okamura Minami
57. Kudo Haruka
57. Tsugunaga Momoko
57. Wada Ayaka
57. Yanagawa Nanami
62. Ozeki Mai
62. Hirose Ayaka
62. Kishimoto Yumeno
62. Akiyama Mao
62. Takase Kurumi
62. Kiyono Momohime
62. Kumai Yurina
69. Fukuda Kanon
69. Tanimoto Ami
69. Onoda Saori
69. Konno Asami
69. Iikubo Haruna
74. Yonemura Kirara
74. Ishiguri Kanami
74. Natsuyaki Miyabi
74. Niigaki Risa
74. Mano Erina
79. Kamei Eri
79. Tanaka Reina
79. Ogata Haruna
79. Nakajima Saki
83. Tamenaga Shion
83. Wakana Rin
83. Matsumoto Wakana
83. Nakanishi Kana
83. Onoda Karin
83. Kajishima Aya (UUG2)
83. Aikawa Maho
83. Okada Robin Shouko
83. Satou Maria (Nice Girl Project KSS?)
95. Nakayama Natsume
95. Hashida Honoka
95. Ebata Kisaki
95. Kikkawa Yuu
95. Furukawa Konatsu (UUG)
95. Mori Saki (UUG)
95. Sekine Azusa (UUG)
95. Arai Natsumi (UUG)
95. Nihei Yuuka (PINK CRES)
95. Abe Natsumi
95. Yasuda Kei
95. Mitsui Aika
95. Matsuura Aya
95. Tokunaga Chinami
95. Okai Chisato
95. Hagiwara Mai
95. Fukuda Kanon
95. Fujii Rio
113. Nishizaki Miku (KSS)
113. Yofu Runo (KSS)
113. Yoshikawa Mayu (UUG2)
113. Niikura Ami (UUG2)
113. Tasaki Asahi (Bitter&Sweet)
113. Hasegawa Moemi (Bitter&Sweet)
113. Miyazaki Rio (Lovelys)
113. Matsui Mari (College Cosmos)
113. Nakazawa Yuko
113. Yaguchi Mari
113. Goto Maki
113. Ishikawa Rkka
113. Yoshizawa Hitomi
113. Takahashi Ai
113. Ogawa Makoto
113. Saito Hitomi (Melon Kinenbi)
113. Shimizu Saki
113. Ishimura Maiha
113. Katsuta Rina
113. Shimamura Uta
113. Okamoto Honoka (ex-KSS)
113. Ono Kotomi (ex-KSS)
113. Hashimoto Aina (Ciao Bella Cinquetti)
113. Murozuka Kanami (Ciao Bella Cinquetti)
113. Sengoku Minami (UUG)
113. Wakita Mana (College Cosmos)
113. Noto Arisa
113. Misawa Sachika (Happy Style)
113. Arisawa Ichika (KSS)
113. Nishimura Karin (KSS)[/spoilerbox]
(And without any former, KSS and UF members:)
[spoilerbox]
1. Satou Masaki
2. Kaga Kaede
3. Miyamoto Karin
4. Oda Sakura
5. Takeuchi Akari
6. Kanazawa Tomoko
7. Fukumura Mizuki
8. Funaki Musubu
9. Morito Chisaki
10. Ishida Ayumi
11. Kamikokuryo Moe
12. Ikuta Erina
13. Yamazaki Mei
14. Takagi Sayuki
15. Inaba Manaka
16. Dambara Ruru
16. Ogata Risa
18. Inoue Rei
19. Kitagawa Rio
20. Kawamura Ayano
21. Makino Maria
23. Ise Layla
25. Nonaka Miki
26. Sasaki Rikako
27. Hamaura Ayano
28. Kasahara Momona
29. Yamazaki Yuhane
29. Hirai Miyo
32. Haga Akane
32. Nomura Minami
34. Yokoyama Reina
35. Asakura Kiki
36. Matsunaga Riai
36. Shimakura Rika
38. Okamura Homare
39. Murota Mizuki
40. Nishida Shiori
42. Uemura Akari
42. Kudo Yume
42. Ichioka Reina
42. Kobayashi Honoka
46. Wada Sakurako
46. Satoyoshi Utano
50. Hashisako Rin
50. Eguchi Saya
50. Maeda Kokoro
53. Yamagishi Riko
54. Niinuma Kisora
57. Okamura Minami
62. Hirose Ayaka
62. Kishimoto Yumeno
62. Akiyama Mao
62. Takase Kurumi
62. Kiyono Momohime
69. Tanimoto Ami
69. Onoda Saori
83. Tamenaga Shion
83. Wakana Rin
83. Matsumoto Wakana
[/spoilerbox]
(I did keep keep the members that just graduated this year, though.)
Interesting. I do think they only voted top 3 instead of top 10, and that might be why Maria is so low for example.
Here's the link btw: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.esrp2.jp/hpma/2020/comment/r ... ember.html' class="bbc_url" title="External link">http://www.esrp2.jp/hpma/2020/comment/r ... er.html</a>
I've seen this trend of guessing the most popular members of each group for Japanese and international fandom on twitter and thought I'd give it a try - here, since I'm not active on twitter.</blockquote>
I know it's not common to post it on here but there's no rules about it either so here's the Japanese survey's result. Note that the Japanese survey also allowed votes for former members as well as Up Front members.
1. Satou Masaki
2. Kaga Kaede
3. Miyamoto Karin
4. Oda Sakura
5. Takeuchi Akari
6. Kanazawa Tomoko
7. Fukumura Mizuki
8. Funaki Musubu
9. Morito Chisaki
10. Ishida Ayumi
11. Kamikokuryo Moe
12. Ikuta Erina
13. Yamazaki Mei
14. Takagi Sayuki
15. Inaba Manaka
16. Dambara Ruru
16. Ogata Risa
18. Inoue Rei
19. Kitagawa Rio
20. Kawamura Ayano[spoilerbox]
21. Makino Maria
22. Suzuki Airi
23. Ise Layla
24. Michishige Sayumi
25. Nonaka Miki
26. Sasaki Rikako
27. Hamaura Ayano
28. Kasahara Momona
29. Yamazaki Yuhane
29. Hirai Miyo
29. Sayashi Riho
32. Haga Akane
32. Nomura Minami
34. Yokoyama Reina
35. Asakura Kiki
36. Matsunaga Riai
36. Shimakura Rika
38. Okamura Homare
39. Murota Mizuki
40. Nishida Shiori
42. Uemura Akari
42. Kudo Yume
42. Ichioka Reina
42. Kobayashi Honoka
46. Wada Sakurako
46. Satoyoshi Utano
46. Suzuki Kanon
46. Yajima Maimi
50. Hashisako Rin
50. Eguchi Saya
50. Maeda Kokoro
53. Yamagishi Riko
54. Niinuma Kisora
55. Yamaki Risa
56. Miyazaki Yuka
57. Okamura Minami
57. Kudo Haruka
57. Tsugunaga Momoko
57. Wada Ayaka
57. Yanagawa Nanami
62. Ozeki Mai
62. Hirose Ayaka
62. Kishimoto Yumeno
62. Akiyama Mao
62. Takase Kurumi
62. Kiyono Momohime
62. Kumai Yurina
69. Fukuda Kanon
69. Tanimoto Ami
69. Onoda Saori
69. Konno Asami
69. Iikubo Haruna
74. Yonemura Kirara
74. Ishiguri Kanami
74. Natsuyaki Miyabi
74. Niigaki Risa
74. Mano Erina
79. Kamei Eri
79. Tanaka Reina
79. Ogata Haruna
79. Nakajima Saki
83. Tamenaga Shion
83. Wakana Rin
83. Matsumoto Wakana
83. Nakanishi Kana
83. Onoda Karin
83. Kajishima Aya (UUG2)
83. Aikawa Maho
83. Okada Robin Shouko
83. Satou Maria (Nice Girl Project KSS?)
95. Nakayama Natsume
95. Hashida Honoka
95. Ebata Kisaki
95. Kikkawa Yuu
95. Furukawa Konatsu (UUG)
95. Mori Saki (UUG)
95. Sekine Azusa (UUG)
95. Arai Natsumi (UUG)
95. Nihei Yuuka (PINK CRES)
95. Abe Natsumi
95. Yasuda Kei
95. Mitsui Aika
95. Matsuura Aya
95. Tokunaga Chinami
95. Okai Chisato
95. Hagiwara Mai
95. Fukuda Kanon
95. Fujii Rio
113. Nishizaki Miku (KSS)
113. Yofu Runo (KSS)
113. Yoshikawa Mayu (UUG2)
113. Niikura Ami (UUG2)
113. Tasaki Asahi (Bitter&Sweet)
113. Hasegawa Moemi (Bitter&Sweet)
113. Miyazaki Rio (Lovelys)
113. Matsui Mari (College Cosmos)
113. Nakazawa Yuko
113. Yaguchi Mari
113. Goto Maki
113. Ishikawa Rkka
113. Yoshizawa Hitomi
113. Takahashi Ai
113. Ogawa Makoto
113. Saito Hitomi (Melon Kinenbi)
113. Shimizu Saki
113. Ishimura Maiha
113. Katsuta Rina
113. Shimamura Uta
113. Okamoto Honoka (ex-KSS)
113. Ono Kotomi (ex-KSS)
113. Hashimoto Aina (Ciao Bella Cinquetti)
113. Murozuka Kanami (Ciao Bella Cinquetti)
113. Sengoku Minami (UUG)
113. Wakita Mana (College Cosmos)
113. Noto Arisa
113. Misawa Sachika (Happy Style)
113. Arisawa Ichika (KSS)
113. Nishimura Karin (KSS)[/spoilerbox]
(And without any former, KSS and UF members:)
[spoilerbox]
1. Satou Masaki
2. Kaga Kaede
3. Miyamoto Karin
4. Oda Sakura
5. Takeuchi Akari
6. Kanazawa Tomoko
7. Fukumura Mizuki
8. Funaki Musubu
9. Morito Chisaki
10. Ishida Ayumi
11. Kamikokuryo Moe
12. Ikuta Erina
13. Yamazaki Mei
14. Takagi Sayuki
15. Inaba Manaka
16. Dambara Ruru
16. Ogata Risa
18. Inoue Rei
19. Kitagawa Rio
20. Kawamura Ayano
21. Makino Maria
23. Ise Layla
25. Nonaka Miki
26. Sasaki Rikako
27. Hamaura Ayano
28. Kasahara Momona
29. Yamazaki Yuhane
29. Hirai Miyo
32. Haga Akane
32. Nomura Minami
34. Yokoyama Reina
35. Asakura Kiki
36. Matsunaga Riai
36. Shimakura Rika
38. Okamura Homare
39. Murota Mizuki
40. Nishida Shiori
42. Uemura Akari
42. Kudo Yume
42. Ichioka Reina
42. Kobayashi Honoka
46. Wada Sakurako
46. Satoyoshi Utano
50. Hashisako Rin
50. Eguchi Saya
50. Maeda Kokoro
53. Yamagishi Riko
54. Niinuma Kisora
57. Okamura Minami
62. Hirose Ayaka
62. Kishimoto Yumeno
62. Akiyama Mao
62. Takase Kurumi
62. Kiyono Momohime
69. Tanimoto Ami
69. Onoda Saori
83. Tamenaga Shion
83. Wakana Rin
83. Matsumoto Wakana
[/spoilerbox]
(I did keep keep the members that just graduated this year, though.)
Interesting. I do think they only voted top 3 instead of top 10, and that might be why Maria is so low for example.
Here's the link btw: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.esrp2.jp/hpma/2020/comment/r ... ember.html' class="bbc_url" title="External link">http://www.esrp2.jp/hpma/2020/comment/r ... er.html</a>
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