Upfront opens an English/French Blog

al kusanagi · Post by **al kusanagi** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:07 am

Up Front opened an English blog.

edit: I think. Supposed to be official, but might not be.

EmEl · Post by **EmEl** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:19 am

For a dude named "Phil" he certainly seems to make non-native speaker mistakes. Perhaps he's French.

Post by **strawberryjam** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:52 am

[quote name='Al Kusanagi' post='91537' date='Jan 12 2011, 06:07 AM']Up Front opened an English blog.

edit: I think. Supposed to be official, but might not be.[/quote]

Uhm, if it's real, it's pretty ghetto. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Way more ghetto than our blog project!!!! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wheely:' /> I mean, come on, blogspot for an official site? I sure hope not...

rob · Post by **rob** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:14 am

That site is.... is.... I just... I...

Of all the... sites on.. t..

Yeh I'm giving up on putting my thoughts about that "website" into words.

Where is my Jean-luc picard face palm when I need it... found it!

al kusanagi · Post by **al kusanagi** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:02 am

Yeah, I think HO's call of "official" may have been a bit too soon.

EmEl · Post by **EmEl** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:19 pm

[quote name='Al Kusanagi' post='91553' date='Jan 12 2011, 12:02 PM']Yeah, I think HO's call of "official" may have been a bit too soon.[/quote]

Unfortunately, I don't think so. I'm guessing they're paying this one guy to do everything himself with no resources.

alita87 · Post by **alita87** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:04 pm

[quote name='Em-El' post='91574' date='Jan 13 2011, 07:19 AM'][quote name='Al Kusanagi' post='91553' date='Jan 12 2011, 12:02 PM']Yeah, I think HO's call of "official" may have been a bit too soon.[/quote]

Unfortunately, I don't think so. I'm guessing they're paying this one guy to do everything himself with no resources.

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Yep that blog is official... and makes me want to email Hello!Project and tell them that I could do a better job blogwise and I think I have a better grasp of the English language. Still it is interesting that something like that is opening.

EmEl · Post by **EmEl** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:00 pm

At least Phil posts about the topics we care about!

rob · Post by **rob** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:31 pm

Foreigners like foreign shit right? Quick make a blog post about some Korean that nobody cares about!

Seriously I worry about Up Front and the thought process they go through to reach such choices...

Shoujo Q · Post by **Shoujo Q** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:41 am

I'll have you know, I was really worried they were keeping her locked in her cage. It's nice they finally let her out to do something besides fester like they did with poor ice cream musume.

It's nice for her to finally be acknowledged and not talked about in the corner in whispered tones.

Anderei · Post by **Anderei** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:59 am

On the bright side, at least Dayeon looks somewhat cute in that pic. Moreso than any others I've ever seen her in anyway. I have a feeling she's going to grow up and look somewhat odd looking.

eri · Post by **eri** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:30 am

I'm so embarrassed for them. WTF is this? And the graphics? And the garbled English?

Not to mention the goddamn boring ass blog entries. What IS this?

I bet they just hired anyone who could claim to be bilingual in French and English. However, the English side has way more comments than the French side and arguably, the English-speaking fan world is much bigger than the French (as English is the dominant international language). It is a mistake to have the blog owner be primarily a French speaker I think. Sorry but, French is barely an international language anymore.

In fact, the SPANISH speaking fan world is also probably bigger than the French. There is a huge Japanese-Brazilian population so I'm shocked that they didn't think to have someone write in either Spanish or Portuguese

edit: just perused the few comments and yup, lots of annoyed Spanish speakers! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

I bet they did this because a French-primary/English-secondary blog seems more "cool," exotic, and impressive than say an official Chinese-language blog.

I also love how quickly racism shows its face on those innocuous blog posts.

Everything about this annoys me.

Haru · Post by **Haru** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:47 am

Largest number of Japanese is in Brazil, and vice versa; plus a lot of Brazilian H!P fans on H!O...but Eri, babe, they don't speak Spanish in Brazil. Portuguese.

Maybe France is their next target audience? I'd have thought they would go into Thailand or Malaysia more, what with Berryz going to the former last year.

Renai · Post by **Renai** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:51 am

[quote name='Haru' post='91641' date='Jan 13 2011, 08:47 PM']Largest number of Japanese is in Brazil, and vice versa; plus a lot of Brazilian H!P fans on H!O...but Eri, babe, they don't speak Spanish in Brazil. Portuguese.

Maybe France is their next target audience? I'd have thought they would go into Thailand or Malaysia more, what with Berryz going to the former last year.[/quote]

Plus the fact you got French-Canadians on the go too. I figured that seems a bit more likely for their reasoning on a french blog; They've already made a few appearances in the U.S, with Berryz coming there this year, why not try the more northern part of North America.

Pucchi-Mo · Post by **Pucchi-Mo** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:10 pm

[quote name='PKyu' post='91633' date='Jan 13 2011, 09:41 AM']I'll have you know, I was really worried they were keeping her locked in her cage. It's nice they finally let her out to do something besides fester like they did with poor ice cream musume.

It's nice for her to finally be acknowledged and not talked about in the corner in whispered tones.[/quote]

They had to keep her from ripping Eri's throat out.

eri · Post by **eri** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:36 pm

[quote name='Haru' post='91641' date='Jan 13 2011, 11:47 AM']Largest number of Japanese is in Brazil, and vice versa; plus a lot of Brazilian H!P fans on H!O...but Eri, babe, they don't speak Spanish in Brazil. Portuguese.[/quote]

[quote name='eri' post='91640' date='Jan 13 2011, 11:30 AM']There is a huge Japanese-Brazilian population so I'm shocked that they didn't think to have someone write in either Spanish or Portuguese[/quote]

Yes I realized <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':weeeh:' /> But, isn't Portuguese similar to Spanish? Or is it "similar" in the way French and Italian are similar (same roots and structure but not comprehensible without classes)?

[quote name='Renai' post='91642' date='Jan 13 2011, 11:51 AM']Plus the fact you got French-Canadians on the go too. I figured that seems a bit more likely for their reasoning on a french blog; They've already made a few appearances in the U.S, with Berryz coming there this year, why not try the more northern part of North America.[/quote]

My dear, I hardly think anyone is targeting French-Canadians as the go-to group for anything <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

I guess the French is cause H!P went to France's Japan Expo but it is still a stupid idea imo.

Whatever, my point is, they need to fire this guy and hire a better English speaker. Oh and, USA! USA! USA! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... wheely.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Shoujo Q · Post by **Shoujo Q** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:15 pm

Flood the UFA office with complaints about Phil's horrible job and show them you could do a better job. xD

Melon · Post by **Melon** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:19 pm

[quote name='PKyu' post='91656' date='Jan 13 2011, 04:15 PM']Flood the UFA office with complaints about Phil's horrible job and show them you could do a better job. xD[/quote]

Complaints AND SPAM the bbs's blog project. LET THEM BE OFFICIAL! They work harder on it, I'm willing to bet.

AquaChan · Post by **AquaChan** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:24 pm

HEY.

I guess I'm the only French-canadian out here

<.<

>.>

H!P is barely know here. Even by Otakus. Anyway.

(I had a Niigaki Risa shirt at a convention and no one cared about me. See? Maybe because it was a Niigaki shirt.)

I think it's just that there might be a lot of French people in Japan? Or just because the guy is freaking french and think he can handle english well? Anyway. XD

It's not looking really official anyway.

Haru · Post by **Haru** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:18 pm

[quote name='eri' post='91651' date='Jan 13 2011, 04:36 PM'][quote name='Haru' post='91641' date='Jan 13 2011, 11:47 AM']Largest number of Japanese is in Brazil, and vice versa; plus a lot of Brazilian H!P fans on H!O...but Eri, babe, they don't speak Spanish in Brazil. Portuguese.[/quote]

[quote name='eri' post='91640' date='Jan 13 2011, 11:30 AM']There is a huge Japanese-Brazilian population so I'm shocked that they didn't think to have someone write in either Spanish or Portuguese[/quote]

Yes I realized <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':puppyeyes:' /> But, isn't Portuguese similar to Spanish? Or is it "similar" in the way French and Italian are similar (same roots and structure but not comprehensible without classes)?

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Yes and no. In some ways it's similar, someone who speaks Portuguese could get the general gist of a Spanish conversation, and vice versa; but there's no way you could learn Spanish and then pick up everything in Portuguese. Some words are just totally different. (Compare "Silent Night" in both languages. Your brain will be fried.)

...Portuguese is my third language okay. /shot

Jang Dayun will probably get a tour around Japan (last I heard she was with Linlin and Junjun), be told YOU CAN NEVER BECOME FAMOUS HERE and then be shoved back into her close.

ashivers · Post by **ashivers** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:33 pm

No matter how much the blog makes us cringe, I still think it's great that they are finally making an effort to keep the non-Japanese speaking fans up to date somehow. Even though I'm jealous that someone kind of took my wishful idea of going up to UFA and asking for the chance to make H!P more accessible internationally, I think he did a great job to actually get to them. He's obviously a fan. So good on him.

rob · Post by **rob** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:05 pm

[quote name='ashivers' post='91699' date='Jan 14 2011, 02:33 PM']No matter how much the blog makes us cringe, I still think it's great that they are finally making an effort to keep the non-Japanese speaking fans up to date somehow. Even though I'm jealous that someone kind of took my wishful idea of going up to UFA and asking for the chance to make H!P more accessible internationally, I think he did a great job to actually get to them. He's obviously a fan. So good on him.[/quote]

The sad thing is that it's quite obvious it isn't some native speaker and it's even more obviously not written by a fan of the groups, the words are straight and cold and the use of English is broken and awkward.

There are a lot of people doing fantastic work in translating and supporting H!P in the non-Japanese speaking world that would actually deserve some official recognition.

This "blog" is just another horrible failure, it's doomed before it has even started.

Have you seen the latest blog? apparently Mano Erina performs with energy on stage and has a new cd out soon...

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE SHOCK HORROR SUPER SECRET AND INCREDIBLY INTERESTING BLOG POST HAS BEEN MADE...

yeh...

ashivers · Post by **ashivers** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:15 pm

[quote name='rob' post='91704' date='Jan 14 2011, 03:05 PM']There are a lot of people doing fantastic work in translating and supporting H!P in the non-Japanese speaking world that would actually deserve some official recognition.[/quote]

Then they should make an effort to contact/badger the offices of UFA to make their efforts worthwhile, no? I agree with you, I used to translate blogs, and it was extremely time and energy consuming. And it ended up not being worth it without payment or recognition so I let it go. But if someone, or a group, were to seriously approach the management and speak for the people who do this out of the feelings they have for the girls, then yes. I believe that if they're willing to hire this Phil guy to do something like this, then what's stopping us from trying? I know the translators do a great job, they should be noticed by UFA. So why doesn't anyone try to get themselves that recognition instead of complaining?

EmEl · Post by **EmEl** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:02 am

[quote name='eri' post='91640' date='Jan 13 2011, 01:30 PM']I bet they just hired anyone who could claim to be bilingual in French and English.[/quote]

I kind of want to believe that "Phil" is actually "Takuhiro" and this is like one of those outsourced customer service things. I can't decide which better represents a terrible decision by a company. I wonder if the French is native-level.

Shoujo Q · Post by **Shoujo Q** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:48 am

Tune in next post when we find out that S/mileage have a new single coming out, and it's called... SHORTCUT!

eri · Post by **eri** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:56 am

[quote name='ashivers' post='91705' date='Jan 14 2011, 12:15 AM']I used to translate blogs, and it was extremely time and energy consuming. And it ended up not being worth it without payment or recognition so I let it go.[/quote]

Hey! Really? You should help us on our mm-bbs blog!project then. It's worth it when you do it in a group <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

I agree with your earlier point that, I'm happy they at least recognize foreign fans.

Maybe we should hold off a bit. The blog has just started and maybe the higher ups are asking "Phil" to do some introductory posts first to gauge the reaction. If anything, we should be whining directly to Phil to step up the game.

I sense my dislike for this is also due to the irrational hate I have for the name "Phil."

Shoujo Q · Post by **Shoujo Q** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:30 pm

This is my first attempt at Fireworks (so forgive my very fast gif), but I found that the gif I had posted above needed a little more, emphasis. (So that's why I moved it down here.)

rob · Post by **rob** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:49 pm

NEWSFLASH!

According to PHIL JunJun and LinLin will be graduating soon!

momoirosaya · Post by **momoirosaya** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:35 pm

[quote name='rob' post='91547' date='Jan 12 2011, 09:14 AM']That site is.... is.... I just... I...

Of all the... sites on.. t..

Yeh I'm giving up on putting my thoughts about that "website" into words.

Where is my Jean-luc picard face palm when I need it... found it!

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This site is just so awfully designed! Even I could do a better job!

rob · Post by **rob** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:05 pm

I bow down to the superior facepalm!

<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... iggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

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