BoA - The First Album

[surasshu]

[quote name='ShinUkyo' post='62462' date='Mar 18 2009, 08:07 AM']Because her newer album, Circus, seems to have much better songs on it.[/quote]

"Seems to have" my ass, it's one of the best pop albums produced this decade. I honestly couldn't care less whose face is on the cover of it.



Anyway, I'm with jas on this album, I can't stand it for the most part. After becoming enthusiastic due to Eat You Up and Did It For Love, I'm quite disappointed in most of the other album tracks.

[Tsuki]

I like this album more than I thought I would. I got BoA's discography recently and didn't really like ANY of her songs. It was only with Eat You Up that I started having any interest in her, and I actually like most of the songs on this album.



I noticed that as the album progresses her English seems to improve as well. I was kind of concerned that her accent would be a big barrier, but I actually kind of like the slight Korean accent she seems to have throughout her songs. The tendency for her to NOT drop final consonants, "matter" instead of "matta'" or "running" instead of "runnin'" like all other R&B/Hip Hop songs in the US, is almost kind of jarring. It's strange because technically it's not incorrect, but I like the slight difference it makes to the flow of some of her songs on this album.



My favorite after a few listens is probably Did Ya, but there aren't any songs I am skipping over immediately yet, which is a good sign. Girls on Top is a little boring though.

[sadude]

[quote name='neshcom' post='62454' date='Mar 18 2009, 01:10 AM']If her next music video isn't for Scream,[/quote]

I have decided that I agree with this. Furthermore, I have decided that this video should be similar to Thriller.







Carry on.

[tsukinobyouin]

I'm still not sure if I want to order this yet or not, since it's gotten pretty mixed reviews, so I tried out the iTunes previews. I usually don't like to buy anything based on those, because they tend to not be very representative of the whole song. Now I see why everyone likes Scream - it's Anyband's Daydream. Except not as good, because they've put some kind of effect on her voice so it doesn't sound as impressive as it did in the original. Even if it had been just as good, that's kind of a letdown for me since....I already have that song! It's already good! I do keep alternate versions of songs occationally if they're really good, but if the best song on the album (excluding the single) isn't even new....eh.



The iTunes previews of everything else aren't too promising, so I think I'm just going to grab I Did it For Love and maybe Did Ya and leave it at that.

[fpd]

[quote name='TnB' post='62671' date='Mar 22 2009, 07:53 PM']I'm still not sure if I want to order this yet or not, since it's gotten pretty mixed reviews, so I tried out the iTunes previews. I usually don't like to buy anything based on those, because they tend to not be very representative of the whole song. Now I see why everyone likes Scream - it's Anyband's Daydream. Except not as good, because they've put some kind of effect on her voice so it doesn't sound as impressive as it did in the original. Even if it had been just as good, that's kind of a letdown for me since....I already have that song! It's already good! I do keep alternate versions of songs occationally if they're really good, but if the best song on the album (excluding the single) isn't even new....eh.



The iTunes previews of everything else aren't too promising, so I think I'm just going to grab I Did it For Love and maybe Did Ya and leave it at that.[/quote]

Meh, both of them are just remakes of a Monrose B side, so it's not like either of them have claim to originally doing it, however they both did it better imo.

[ShinUkyo]

[quote name='///' post='62540' date='Mar 20 2009, 11:05 AM'][quote name='ShinUkyo' post='62462' date='Mar 18 2009, 08:07 AM']Because her newer album, Circus, seems to have much better songs on it.[/quote]

"Seems to have" my ass, it's one of the best pop albums produced this decade.

I honestly couldn't care less whose face is on the cover of it.[/quote]

That's good to hear, and it definitely proves my point. The only reason I said "seems to have," was because I don't own the album myself yet. I've heard most of these songs only one time each, while at a friend's house one time. But even from those first impressions, I got a very good feeling from the album. I just didn't wanna be too fast to forming a solid opinion of them, even though it was a positive one. I would have been a hypocrite, since I'm always telling folks to "give songs a fair shot, and give them multiple/serious listens, before forming such a strong opinion."



[quote name='Tsuki' post='62564' date='Mar 20 2009, 06:33 PM']I got BoA's discography recently and didn't really like ANY of her songs.

It was only with Eat You Up that I started having any interest in her...[/quote]

Wait, you mean her whole discography? She's released a TON of music, whether we're talking about Japan, Korea, or both. I can't imagine trying to absorb all that music in such a short period of time. She's worked with a myriad of very talented producers, from all sides of the industry. And in all of that material, I'm surprised to hear that not one of her songs stood out to you. Especially if you like the English album, since some of the styles on there are very similar to songs she's done in the past. Aside from her self-cover song, I mean, which would obviously fall into that category haha.



[quote name='sadude' post='62574' date='Mar 20 2009, 09:59 PM']Furthermore, I have decided that this video should be similar to Thriller.[/quote]

It's a great idea, but also a lofty goal. Much bigger artists have taken on this challenge before, and many have failed miserably. The example that always comes to mind, for me, is Sisqo. At the absolute peak of his popularity, he was preparing to make a music video for his song "Unleash the Dragon." He kept hyping it up, in numerous interviews he had done before the filming, saying it was going to be like "the next Thriller." Similar style, similar visuals and ground-breaking budget, etc. But in the end, the video turned out so horribly, that it was never even aired on MTV. It was only seen, at least by a major audience, many years after the fact... when MTV profiled some of "the worst music videos ever made." <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whatthe:' />

[fpd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBCuHeZUUg

For easy reference for lazy people on how bad Sisqo's video ended up.

[tsukinobyouin]

[quote name='fpd' post='62697' date='Mar 23 2009, 01:22 PM']Meh, both of them are just remakes of a Monrose B side, so it's not like either of them have claim to originally doing it, however they both did it better imo.[/quote]



That's interesting to know, but it makes the song even more dissapointing to me. I don't mind remakes being on her album, especially remakes of her own songs in English to show homage to her career in Asia, but it just kind of takes the album down a notch for me if the best song on it isn't even new. BUT, now that I've downloaded the full album to get a better preview, the whole point is kind of mute because I don't think it's the best non-single song anymore XD I really only liked two or three songs, and none of them as much as Eat You Up so I'm glad I didn't end up buying the whole album. Oh well, I hope she's sucessful anyway so there can be a 2nd (and hopefully stronger) album.

[Tsuki]

[quote name='ShinUkyo' post='62808' date='Mar 25 2009, 03:05 AM'][quote name='Tsuki' post='62564' date='Mar 20 2009, 06:33 PM']I got BoA's discography recently and didn't really like ANY of her songs.

It was only with Eat You Up that I started having any interest in her...[/quote]

Wait, you mean her whole discography? She's released a TON of music, whether we're talking about Japan, Korea, or both. I can't imagine trying to absorb all that music in such a short period of time. She's worked with a myriad of very talented producers, from all sides of the industry. And in all of that material, I'm surprised to hear that not one of her songs stood out to you. Especially if you like the English album, since some of the styles on there are very similar to songs she's done in the past. Aside from her self-cover song, I mean, which would obviously fall into that category haha.

[/quote]

I guess it was her whole Korean discography, not her Japanese one. It was 5 of her albums and 3 of her mini-albums. I guess I don't really work well with grabbing large amounts of songs all at once, because I get bored when song after song sounds exactly like one another and I just zone out while listening and doing other things. I'm not typically a music listener that just sits and listens to music while doing nothing else, so I really found nothing in BoA's music that particularly stood out.



I also seem to be resistant to listening to her Japanese discography for some reason though. I really don't know why. In other news, I am still enjoying this particular album. My favorites now are Energetic and Did Ya, I guess. Those are the ones I keep going back to, but I still like the rest generally.

[Jessui]

Tsuki - definitely give her Japanese discography a try. That's really what she has concentrated on throughout her music career, and she has a lot of great stuff. She has a best album 'Best of Soul' that has a lot of her major singles since her debut, maybe try listening to that.

[sadude]

Why would she have concentrated on her Japanese career? Just because the market's bigger? I figured the same as Tsuki and only really checked out some of her Korean stuff, and never understood what the big deal was. Or rather, just figured it wasn't my cup of tea.

[Jessui]

I don't know why, that's a question for her management I guess <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hahaha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='^_^' /> She's just enjoyed big success in Japan from the beginning (her early singles from when she was around 14 or so were big hits) - that must have a lot to do with it it. As a result since then she's been more active in Japan than Korea, and I think overall that the quality of her original Japanese stuff is a lot better than that of her Korean stuff.

[tsukinobyouin]

I kind of wonder (pure speculation here) if some of that might have to do with the slump Korean pop had not too long after her Japanese debut. A lot of popular groups broke up, switched labels, had drama, etc. and there really wasn't much good coming out of Kpop for a few years. A lot of the groups that are doing really well have sprung up in the last few years. Maybe they figured the Japanese market was more vitalized at the time and it would pay off more to promote her there. I also kind of wonder if it has to do with the time investment. When she first announced she was going to debut in Japan, I remember watching a mini-live type event. Her Japanese was terrible and her singing voice wasn't very strong live. They probably had to put a lot of time and money into teaching her the language, vocal training, promotion, etc. It always seems like cross-over artists have to sacrifice a lot of their career in their native country to be successful.



That's why as hopeful as I am, I'm kind of skeptical that her US career will go very far unless they really pull her out of Japan and Korea for a while so she can get really good at English and make a ton of public appearances.

[Kago]

Promotion from the Forever 21 website has been taken down, but she is now being promoted by Victoria's Secret (specifically the PINK brand): http://www.vspink.com/love_rock.jsp



She performed live at Forever 21 in Pasadena, CA on Sunday where she also signed autographs. She's featured as AT&T's single of the moment pick on imeem.com. I Did It For Love has been stuck in my head for days now.



From what I understand, there seems like there will be a mini documentary on her in conjunction with MTV? I'm not too sure about it, but the preview is here: http://www.mtviggy.com/content/8144. I don't know if it'll actually be aired on MTV itself but i wouldn't hold my breath.

[Pi Mako]

Haha, BoA debuts at #127 on the Billboard Top 200 =/

[AEUGNewtype]

[quote name='sadude' post='62860' date='Mar 25 2009, 05:55 PM']Why would she have concentrated on her Japanese career? Just because the market's bigger? I figured the same as Tsuki and only really checked out some of her Korean stuff, and never understood what the big deal was. Or rather, just figured it wasn't my cup of tea.[/quote]

It probably is exactly your first statement. Not only the market, but the country itself is way bigger than both Koreas combined. Japan's pop market was in sort of a boom around that time for a couple reasons, so I think they decided a crossover would be most beneficial. I'm guessing Avex approached SM or vice versa and she seems to have been a prototype for the Korean crossover market that got really huge in 2005-2006 in Japan. As far as her Korean music versus her Japanese music, its hard to say because both have been good during different time periods. Her early Korean career was fantastic through her 3rd album, but after that its been a steady decline, but right around the time her 3rd album came out is when she switched almost exclusively to her Japanese career, and this is where her Japanese career became absolutely awesome, where she started working with tip-top Japanese producers and arrangers, including some that many of us as H!P fans are familiar with (AKIRA, Shoichiro Hirata, etc.) After her LOVE&HONESTY album, her Japanese career also started to taper off and made somewhat of a comeback in '07, and now it seems to have gone to crap again recently, but I guess that's just my opinion.





[quote name='TnB' post='62880' date='Mar 25 2009, 09:36 PM']I kind of wonder (pure speculation here) if some of that might have to do with the slump Korean pop had not too long after her Japanese debut. A lot of popular groups broke up, switched labels, had drama, etc. and there really wasn't much good coming out of Kpop for a few years. A lot of the groups that are doing really well have sprung up in the last few years. Maybe they figured the Japanese market was more vitalized at the time and it would pay off more to promote her there. I also kind of wonder if it has to do with the time investment. When she first announced she was going to debut in Japan, I remember watching a mini-live type event. Her Japanese was terrible and her singing voice wasn't very strong live. They probably had to put a lot of time and money into teaching her the language, vocal training, promotion, etc. It always seems like cross-over artists have to sacrifice a lot of their career in their native country to be successful.[/quote]

That's a good way to describe what happened in that slump. It was such an obvious down-time for that industry, but I could never very accurately detail why it happened. I remember watching that mini-event as well, it was kinda weird, it was almost like a fashion show, except she was the only model there. On a similar note that I'm going to talk about in the next quote, this event seems akin to the one that Pi Kago links to down there, with her New York event.



[quote name='Pi Kago' post='62898' date='Mar 26 2009, 06:40 AM']From what I understand, there seems like there will be a mini documentary on her in conjunction with MTV? I'm not too sure about it, but the preview is here: http://www.mtviggy.com/content/8144. I don't know if it'll actually be aired on MTV itself but i wouldn't hold my breath.[/quote]

Continued from the previous thing I said up there, this event is just a small event with a bunch of people there, except instead of it being industry people, it's just fans, and BoA seems not to be the only guest, because in all the other links on that page, some of them have New York performances from a bunch of other SM/Korean artists, so I'm guessing they're from the same event. She also seemed really nervous and awkward in that performance and the lead-up to it. It's really strange, with as confident as she usually seems in her performances.



Does anyone know exactly what the hell MTV Iggy is? Everything on the page just has a bunch of Korean artists, but I'm not entirely sure if this is officially affiliated with MTV or not, but it seems to me like this is a vehicle that MTV is allowing SM Town to use their name for to promote all these attempted crossover artists.

[Tsuki]

I got her Japanese discography now, and I'm in the process of listening through it (doing her Best of Soul Perfect album first) and so far, there is still nothing capturing my attention, and even worse, I'm skipping some songs before I even finish listening to them because they're just so bland. Maybe I'm blending her songs together having gotten them all at once, and listening to them for the first time but all of these sound the same. And they all sound really rather boring and even a little monotonous. It was the same problem with her Korean albums too.



I am not versed enough in music terminology to say exactly which parts I don't like and why, and I know a lot of music is just feeling, but I just can't seem to get into any of these so far. I've yet to find even one of her songs that stick out to me, and I'm kind of disappointed. I've yet to go through all her Japanese albums yet, so maybe there'll be something on there.

[eri]

Haha, BoA debuts at #127 on the Billboard Top 200 =/

To be completely honest, I'm surprised she got so high. That is pretty sad though.

They probably had to put a lot of time and money into teaching her the language, vocal training, promotion, etc. It always seems like cross-over artists have to sacrifice a lot of their career in their native country to be successful.]

I heard that Boa's popularity in Korea exploded when she crossed over to Japan. Maybe it was the curiosity at seeing someone who "made it" overseas?

[AEUGNewtype]

[quote name='Tsuki' post='62943' date='Mar 27 2009, 12:17 AM']I got her Japanese discography now, and I'm in the process of listening through it (doing her Best of Soul Perfect album first) and so far, there is still nothing capturing my attention, and even worse, I'm skipping some songs before I even listening to them because they're just so bland. Maybe I'm blending her songs together having gotten them all at once, and listening to them for the first time but all of these sound the same. And they all sound really rather boring and even a little monotonous. It was the same problem with her Korean albums too.



I am not versed enough in music terminology to say exactly which parts I don't like and why, and I know a lot of music is just feeling, but I just can't seem to get into any of these so far. I've yet to find even one of her songs that stick out to me, and I'm kind of disappointed. I've yet to go through all her Japanese albums yet, so maybe there'll be something on there.[/quote]

From what you're saying, you already have pretty high expectations going into listening to anything from her, which is almost setting it up for failure, but also keep in mind that much of Jpop gets ironed into our minds and works its way into our subconscious through the use of PVs and marketing, so if you weren't following her career as the singles were coming out and watching the PVs/performances that went with them, much of this won't seem very unique or interesting, and this is the same with pretty much any Jpop artist. There are always some songs or artists that can captivate us even without any visual accompaniment, but especially with females/idols, this is a big part of the puzzle of their success. PVs help us differentiate one song from another if they do sound somewhat similar (which many singles from the same artist can) and you're just going in blind listening to a lot of this. Just imagine if you started on MM's discography and just started listening to it knowing nothing about the girls themselves, never seeing the PVs and all the stories ingrained into them or the history behind what was happening with them during the time each single came out. It would take a lot longer and a lot more of an open mind to really become a fan of them. There's no one song or set of songs that can really convey what the group is all about, since it is such a dynamic, and just looking for that one thing to really make you "get" a Jpop artist will never work.

[tsukinobyouin]

Somehow Did Ya has really grown on me. I might even like it better than Eat You Up now XD

I'm guessing Avex approached SM or vice versa and she seems to have been a prototype for the Korean crossover market that got really huge in 2005-2006 in Japan.

I've always wondered what happened with S.E.S and their attempt at a Japanese crossover. They were also SM, and huge in Korea at the time. They seemed to have more of the total package going on, as they spoke more Japanese than BoA did when she first went over, and at the time were better vocalists. Maybe they just never had the right promotion. (/end off topic XD)

From what I understand, there seems like there will be a mini documentary on her in conjunction with MTV? I'm not too sure about it, but the preview is here: http://www.mtviggy.com/content/8144. I don't know if it'll actually be aired on MTV itself but i wouldn't hold my breath.

Continued from the previous thing I said up there, this event is just a small event with a bunch of people there, except instead of it being industry people, it's just fans, and BoA seems not to be the only guest, because in all the other links on that page, some of them have New York performances from a bunch of other SM/Korean artists, so I'm guessing they're from the same event. She also seemed really nervous and awkward in that performance and the lead-up to it. It's really strange, with as confident as she usually seems in her performances.

I watched the I Did It For Love performances that was linked on the side and it was pretty awful. It was really weird how they chose to have her sing over the auto-tuned vocals for some lines, but just not sing at all for others. Plus she sounded like...any random person doing karaoke. That was always my huge complaint with BoA when she first started out (that her live vocals were weak), but I haven't watched a live performance of hers since way back then, so I don't know if this is the norm for her now or if it really was all nervousness.

I got her Japanese discography now, and I'm in the process of listening through it (doing her Best of Soul Perfect album first) and so far, there is still nothing capturing my attention, and even worse, I'm skipping some songs before I even listening to them because they're just so bland. Maybe I'm blending her songs together having gotten them all at once, and listening to them for the first time but all of these sound the same. And they all sound really rather boring and even a little monotonous. It was the same problem with her Korean albums too.



I am not versed enough in music terminology to say exactly which parts I don't like and why, and I know a lot of music is just feeling, but I just can't seem to get into any of these so far. I've yet to find even one of her songs that stick out to me, and I'm kind of disappointed. I've yet to go through all her Japanese albums yet, so maybe there'll be something on there.

From what you're saying, you already have pretty high expectations going into listening to anything from her, which is almost setting it up for failure, but also keep in mind that much of Jpop gets ironed into our minds and works its way into our subconscious through the use of PVs and marketing, so if you weren't following her career as the singles were coming out and watching the PVs/performances that went with them, much of this won't seem very unique or interesting, and this is the same with pretty much any Jpop artist. (Lots of other stuff)

This is a good point - but at the same time, I think a lot of it comes down to personal taste. I've never been into BoA at all, which is why I was so surprised to be so into her American releases. You make a good point with your example about MM, but I think even having the full package sometimes doesn't make you like the artist's music any more. A good example of this for me would be TOKIO - I love their personalities and I love their recent releases (which I have really only followed by listening to the songs, not by watching PVs or any other promotional stuff), so I went back and downloaded a bunch of their old albums, and very little of it grabbed me. Sometimes it really just comes down to something that grabs you or moves you in some indescribable way. Just like with BoA - I usually hate songs that are in the same style as Eat You Up, but for whatever reason it really stuck with me.

[AEUGNewtype]

From what you're saying, you already have pretty high expectations going into listening to anything from her, which is almost setting it up for failure, but also keep in mind that much of Jpop gets ironed into our minds and works its way into our subconscious through the use of PVs and marketing, so if you weren't following her career as the singles were coming out and watching the PVs/performances that went with them, much of this won't seem very unique or interesting, and this is the same with pretty much any Jpop artist. (Lots of other stuff)

This is a good point - but at the same time, I think a lot of it comes down to personal taste. I've never been into BoA at all, which is why I was so surprised to be so into her American releases. You make a good point with your example about MM, but I think even having the full package sometimes doesn't make you like the artist's music any more. A good example of this for me would be TOKIO - I love their personalities and I love their recent releases (which I have really only followed by listening to the songs, not by watching PVs or any other promotional stuff), so I went back and downloaded a bunch of their old albums, and very little of it grabbed me. Sometimes it really just comes down to something that grabs you or moves you in some indescribable way. Just like with BoA - I usually hate songs that are in the same style as Eat You Up, but for whatever reason it really stuck with me.

Of course a lot of it comes down to personal taste, but sometimes people forget just how powerful all the images and nostalgia that get associated with following a Japanese artist's marketing campaigns can be to our subconscious. I've been following her stuff since 2001 and watched and heard just about everything she did for years after that, and it has a special place to me, for lack of better term. Good examples.

[AEUGNewtype]

Double post!



I just found her American album at the only American chain store that still sells CDs who I forgot about, F.Y.E. They had one copy and had to go in the back to find it for me, AND it was 17 dollars. What a shaft. I bought it anyway since I was in a spending state of mind, but haven't listened to it. This may be people outside of NY or CA's best bet, since most other stores don't have it in their system. I won't even get started on Best Buy.



I also went by the Forever 21 and Victoria's Secret PINK stores in the same mall and saw no kind of promotion. Not too surprising, though, since I'm not in New York or California.



EDIT: Listening. Did Ya has already paid for this purchase.

[Liana]

I really lucked out- I was wandering aimless around the Mall of America and went into the Best Buy there and they had the CD! 13 dollars too! I wasn't even trying to look for it XD I bought it, even if I haven't heard anything off of it but Eat You Up (which I don't like). I just really wanted to support her debut. I FINALLY got a chance to listen to it yesterday on my way to a friend's and had to stop myself from dancing my way through downtown. I really want to hear some of these songs at a club man. However, once it ended it felt like . . . like the CD was just one big gigantic song. The only one I remembered liking enough to go back and put on repeat was Did Ya, the rest just sort of merged together in one pretty awesome dance beat. I don't regret the purchase because I didn't exactly make it for the CD itself anyway, but I bet all but Did Ya get kicked out of the MP3 player (I only have 1 gig okay <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dammit:' />) It doesn't SUCK, and maybe after listening to some songs pop up on shuffle so they're not just part of the massive dance beat and stand out more will help, but right now I just think of it as 11 versions of the same song.

[AEUGNewtype]

After listening to the whole thing, most of it is really bad and pretty disgustingly generic, but Did Ya and Eat You Up are golden. I'd say these 2 songs basically paid for the price, even as high as it was when I bought it, but the rest is so disposable, its quite a shame. At least the album packaging is gorgeous <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... iggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dammit:' />

[Pi Mako]

As mentioned before, I like how Did Ya is the same song as Buddha's Delight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0SMIESX-C4...feature=related I also have no idea if Buddha's Delight is a cover of another song LOL.



Isn't Scream a cover of another song as well? Is this entire album secretly a cover album?

[AEUGNewtype]

Buddha's Delight kinda sucks, the lyrics and vocal melodies of Did Ya are about 1000 times better, not to mention the arrangement being way more powerful. Scream is just terrible either way, so I won't comment on which is better.

[tsukinobyouin]

[quote name='Pi Miki' post='63107' date='Mar 30 2009, 09:46 PM']Isn't Scream a cover of another song as well? Is this entire album secretly a cover album?[/quote]



We talked about this earlier:





[quote name='fpd' post='62697' date='Mar 23 2009, 01:22 PM'][quote name='TnB' post='62671' date='Mar 22 2009, 07:53 PM']I'm still not sure if I want to order this yet or not, since it's gotten pretty mixed reviews, so I tried out the iTunes previews. I usually don't like to buy anything based on those, because they tend to not be very representative of the whole song. Now I see why everyone likes Scream - it's Anyband's Daydream. Except not as good, because they've put some kind of effect on her voice so it doesn't sound as impressive as it did in the original. Even if it had been just as good, that's kind of a letdown for me since....I already have that song! It's already good! I do keep alternate versions of songs occationally if they're really good, but if the best song on the album (excluding the single) isn't even new....eh.



The iTunes previews of everything else aren't too promising, so I think I'm just going to grab I Did it For Love and maybe Did Ya and leave it at that.[/quote]

Meh, both of them are just remakes of a Monrose B side, so it's not like either of them have claim to originally doing it, however they both did it better imo.

[/quote]



As for Did Ya...I'm just confused XD The intro is exactly the same, and a lot of the instrumental sounds the same, but the vocals don't. While I was trying to find out if Buddha's Delight was also a cover, I came across this mash up for comparison though. I ended up reading that the writer/composer credits are the same, so who knows if they just upgraded their song for her or if it was basically remixed by someone else. Either way, kind of lame to find out that 3 of 10 new tracks are covers =/ At least with Did Ya it's a cover of a song BoA herself has never sung before.

[Fina]

[quote name='The☆AEUGNewtype' post='63111' date='Mar 30 2009, 08:56 PM']Buddha's Delight kinda sucks, the lyrics and vocal melodies of Did Ya are about 1000 times better, not to mention the arrangement being way more powerful. Scream is just terrible either way, so I won't comment on which is better.[/quote]



To Buddha's Delight's credit the lyrics are supposed to be horrendous. I'm not sure if you knew that this came from the movie "Music and Lyrics" (just ignore me if you did) but the character, played by Haley Bennet, is a spoof on the big pop stars. She's really into the Buddhist religion but totally misses the message throughout the movie. The lyrics are meant to be crap.



This album really grows on me. I initially liked "I did it for love" and "Did ya" best, but I've started to find "Obsessed" to be really catchy as well. I want to buy the album but not on itunes. Have any basic stores had it yet? I've heard a few mentioned but I don't have F.Y.E or Best Buy very closer.

[peachgirldb]

If it sounds like 11 versions of the same song, I obviously don't care because. I like that song. A lot.



I think aside from the ones everyone likes, I really like Touched (Obsessed is pretty good too). In fact, the only thing I'm not really crazy about is Look Who's Talking, and I don't love Girls On Top or Scream quite as much either. But! I still like.

[sadude]

[quote name='sadude' post='62534' date='Mar 20 2009, 12:35 AM'][quote name='sadude' post='62442' date='Mar 17 2009, 11:20 PM']I picked this up today! I was out for lunch walking around and remembered that this CD came out today, so I headed to J&R, and, surprisingly they had it in stock.[/quote]

I went back the day after (Wednesday the 18th), and the two CDs that were left when I bought mine were gone. It's not indicative of anything, and it's just two measly copies, but I was surprised at that.[/quote]

I checked there a couple of days ago, and they had a bunch in stock! At least 8 or so. So anyone in or near NYC can go pick it up at J&R near City Hall. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... umbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />