There was some discussion about singing methods in a thread on Music Chat about Ayumi Hamasaki's voice going, but I wanted to bring it here to discuss it from an H!P perspective. (And this is meant as a discussion starter, not as an H!P 101-type question.)
I was listening closely to the Erina Mano CD album, "Friends," and I have to say it was the first time I really paid attention to how she sang each song. In a lot of songs she sings from the back of the throat. She sounded better when she didn't. She's clearly capable of much better. So why do they insist she sing from the back of the throat? And then I realized that so many of the younger performers in BK and C-ute do that too. Is it because that's the way idol singing is supposed to sound? To make them sound younger?
There are/were plenty of H!P singers who don't sing from the back of the throat (think Yuki Maeda, Aya, Maki, Nacchi, Kei). So why make Erina sing that way? But, now that I think about it, even Yuko, who I think has one of the finest voices in H!P, often sings from the back of the throat and it diminishes her ability.
It's been years since I took vocal training myself back when I was a Drama major in high school, so I don't recall all the terminology. I just remember, "From the diaphragm!" So forgive me if I'm framing the question the wrong way.
So what other ways of singing are there? How do you describe them? And who in H!P sings in those ways? Any vocal students here who can help me? And what do the vocal coaches at H!P do? What are they told to do? Anyone know?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but I don't think I've ever come across a detailed discussion of this in terms of H!P and I think it's a significant issue.
Thanks.
(P.S. After reading Gypchan's response, I changed "From the abdomen," which nobody actually ever said to me, to "From the diaphragm," which was the phrase my vocal teacher used. It has been a long time.)
Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
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Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='Madara' post='77014' date='Mar 13 2010, 09:17 AM']There are/were plenty of H!P singers who don't sing from the back of the throat (think Yuki Maeda, Aya, Maki, Nacchi, Kei).[/quote]
Think about that group you just listed, and then think of the ones that do. This is just my best hypothesis; I can't sing myself, have never had vocal training, and certainly have never spoken to the H!P vocal trainers, but I think that singing from your throat rather than your diaphragm, even though it doesn't sound very good, makes it easier to hit notes. It's no secret that a lot of the H!P girls lack true vocal talent, and no secret that for many of their fans it's not about that. I imagine the powers that be don't need them to sound terrific, they just need them to pass. And throat singing is probably the easiest path to passable. Those who sang properly were/are the few with real singing ability.
Think about that group you just listed, and then think of the ones that do. This is just my best hypothesis; I can't sing myself, have never had vocal training, and certainly have never spoken to the H!P vocal trainers, but I think that singing from your throat rather than your diaphragm, even though it doesn't sound very good, makes it easier to hit notes. It's no secret that a lot of the H!P girls lack true vocal talent, and no secret that for many of their fans it's not about that. I imagine the powers that be don't need them to sound terrific, they just need them to pass. And throat singing is probably the easiest path to passable. Those who sang properly were/are the few with real singing ability.
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There are two types of singing that I was taught - Head voice and chest voice.
In the category of head voice goes the "real" vocal talent as well as those who sing a bit nasal (since singing through the nose is the halfway point to singing in the head voice range). This is the category in which the phrase of singing teachers in my past would want their student to be and would push for singing from the diaphragm (which is the same as singing from the abdomen). Breathing is well-controlled and it gives the singer that sound. It's all about air/breathing.
In the category of chest voice goes most of the pop singers and idol talent because this is also known as the "belting range." This means this is where the people who have not mastered head voice can still generally hit notes and still be loud/powerful. Sadly, it is in this category that injury is more likely to happen to one's vocal chords because it is much more forceful and stressing to that area of the throat. Younger types use this because it gives them the power/"oomph" in their singing. It also sounds less rounded (I can't think of a word to describe it; it is just the less mature sound). Breath control has not been developed/trained in this category, which is why a lot of pop singers have a hard time dancing and singing at the same time - they have to breathe differently to do each task.
Anyway, the chest voice does make one sound younger because it is the immature, untrained sound that some idols are pushed to have. It is the sound of youth.
In cases in which the girl could not sing well at all (like Sayumi), I have noticed the voice coach stressing the use of a more nasal sound. This pushes the singer into the head voice (think about making the sound of a siren. It's like that) and gives them more control. You remember that clip with the NYAAAAO? That is nasal sound. Now, even though she is still not the best singer, she has somewhat improved. That is what the control of head voice does, in my opinion.
I have to run, but I can post more later if anything I said here helped at all.
In the category of head voice goes the "real" vocal talent as well as those who sing a bit nasal (since singing through the nose is the halfway point to singing in the head voice range). This is the category in which the phrase of singing teachers in my past would want their student to be and would push for singing from the diaphragm (which is the same as singing from the abdomen). Breathing is well-controlled and it gives the singer that sound. It's all about air/breathing.
In the category of chest voice goes most of the pop singers and idol talent because this is also known as the "belting range." This means this is where the people who have not mastered head voice can still generally hit notes and still be loud/powerful. Sadly, it is in this category that injury is more likely to happen to one's vocal chords because it is much more forceful and stressing to that area of the throat. Younger types use this because it gives them the power/"oomph" in their singing. It also sounds less rounded (I can't think of a word to describe it; it is just the less mature sound). Breath control has not been developed/trained in this category, which is why a lot of pop singers have a hard time dancing and singing at the same time - they have to breathe differently to do each task.
Anyway, the chest voice does make one sound younger because it is the immature, untrained sound that some idols are pushed to have. It is the sound of youth.
In cases in which the girl could not sing well at all (like Sayumi), I have noticed the voice coach stressing the use of a more nasal sound. This pushes the singer into the head voice (think about making the sound of a siren. It's like that) and gives them more control. You remember that clip with the NYAAAAO? That is nasal sound. Now, even though she is still not the best singer, she has somewhat improved. That is what the control of head voice does, in my opinion.
I have to run, but I can post more later if anything I said here helped at all.
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
This is really fascinating, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about!!! I can't discern a nasal voice from a diaphram voice. Can you two list some examples?
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[quote name='eri' post='77034' date='Mar 13 2010, 09:06 PM']This is really fascinating, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about!!![/quote]
You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />.
You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />.
Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='Gypchan' post='77016' date='Mar 13 2010, 05:30 PM']I have to run, but I can post more later if anything I said here helped at all.[/quote]
This is very interesting and I'd like to read more. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... umbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
[quote name='eri' post='77034' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:06 PM']I can't discern a nasal voice from a diaphram voice. Can you two list some examples?[/quote][quote name='The Turtle Moves' post='77035' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM']You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />.[/quote]
Thirded.
While I know for a fact that "bleating" is the most accurate term for any and all of my attempts at singing, then despite sub-consciously hearing a difference between different singers, I can't for life point down where it is.
One of the few things my linguistic studies have taught me was that voice is produced when air passes through the vocal tract, and whatever is articulated depends on the different configurations of all the points of articulation. They failed however to teach me the difference between singing nasally and singing from the diaphragm. This leaves me terribly confused. Air comes from the lungs and not from the belly (well, unless you burp), and the only diaphragm I know is that in the lens of my camera. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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This is very interesting and I'd like to read more. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... umbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
[quote name='eri' post='77034' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:06 PM']I can't discern a nasal voice from a diaphram voice. Can you two list some examples?[/quote][quote name='The Turtle Moves' post='77035' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM']You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />.[/quote]
Thirded.
While I know for a fact that "bleating" is the most accurate term for any and all of my attempts at singing, then despite sub-consciously hearing a difference between different singers, I can't for life point down where it is.
One of the few things my linguistic studies have taught me was that voice is produced when air passes through the vocal tract, and whatever is articulated depends on the different configurations of all the points of articulation. They failed however to teach me the difference between singing nasally and singing from the diaphragm. This leaves me terribly confused. Air comes from the lungs and not from the belly (well, unless you burp), and the only diaphragm I know is that in the lens of my camera. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
Thank you, Gypchan, although I think popular demand is pressing for more detailed info. (Sorry. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/sus.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />)
Which all begs the next question: how does the way J-pop singers sing compare to their American counterparts? Do Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys, all those American Idol alumni, etc. sing or treat their voices very differently?
Which all begs the next question: how does the way J-pop singers sing compare to their American counterparts? Do Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys, all those American Idol alumni, etc. sing or treat their voices very differently?
Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
You'll encounter a more similar singing style to that in other jpop, like Chihiro Onitsuka, ayaka, Koda Kumi, Namie Amuro, etc.
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
This is really interesting!!
Personally, as a fandubber, sometimes I also sing from my throat. Usually on the more energetic high pitched songs, like a KiraRevo song, because when you sing with that kind of voice it's easier to reach high notes and have more energy in your voice, but if I was going to sing, lets say a Nana Mizuki song, I would sing from my diaphragm to have better control of low mature notes, it also makes it easier to hold long notes. It also totally just depends on what kind of song it is. That doesn't really answer your question (and it was already answered anyways), sorry.
Personally, as a fandubber, sometimes I also sing from my throat. Usually on the more energetic high pitched songs, like a KiraRevo song, because when you sing with that kind of voice it's easier to reach high notes and have more energy in your voice, but if I was going to sing, lets say a Nana Mizuki song, I would sing from my diaphragm to have better control of low mature notes, it also makes it easier to hold long notes. It also totally just depends on what kind of song it is. That doesn't really answer your question (and it was already answered anyways), sorry.
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='aine' post='77037' date='Mar 13 2010, 07:21 PM'][quote name='eri' post='77034' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:06 PM']I can't discern a nasal voice from a diaphram voice. Can you two list some examples?[/quote][quote name='The Turtle Moves' post='77035' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM']You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':weeeh:' />.[/quote]
Thirded.[/quote]
As mentioned in the previous thread about Ayumi's voice, the main popular singer I know of to sing 100% nasally is BoA, so I'll drop a few examples of nasal singers compared to diaphragm singers:
Nasal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUIn4642ZU...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyh3qNPfYI
Koharu was/is also very nasal when she sings, but it's easier to hear the difference in singing technique comparing this to the original. Nacchi wasn't a diaphragm singer, as mentioned above, but maybe just comparing what you hear of the two will help you pick out characteristics of nasal singing.
And coming back to her, Namie Amuro is perhaps the best (and easiest) example of nasal versus diaphragm (at times) or at least back-of-the-throat singing since she changed her singing style from her debut days.
Original Chase the Chase (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouGzPlP3SFw...&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-9Nh-vhZ0
Recent Chase the Chance (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rai00wt_BNI
Original Body Feels Exit (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSMlFpmAJ8...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJsZM1N2eM
Recent Body Feels Exit (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ7fiQp040...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGPE_c8DV4...feature=related
Sorry that I couldn't say anything (much) about the OP's question regarding H!P in particular, but these, I think, are the easiest examples to familiarize people with the difference in sound. Diaphragm singing requires a hell of a lot more training than nasal or throat singing since the breathing training requires tightening and toning of the diaphragm itself, and so when vocal coaches are looking for the quickest route to get a star out into the public faster, they'll sometimes opt for teaching the singer nasal singing instead. Nasal is potentially a lot more harmful to the singer in the long-run, but it's easier to teach, easier to learn, and easier to perform--especially when dancing requires so much breathing training besides that.
There are plenty of people on the forum with much more knowledge about this than I since it's been six or seven years since I was a singer myself and I was never formally trained.
Thirded.[/quote]
As mentioned in the previous thread about Ayumi's voice, the main popular singer I know of to sing 100% nasally is BoA, so I'll drop a few examples of nasal singers compared to diaphragm singers:
Nasal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUIn4642ZU...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyh3qNPfYI
Koharu was/is also very nasal when she sings, but it's easier to hear the difference in singing technique comparing this to the original. Nacchi wasn't a diaphragm singer, as mentioned above, but maybe just comparing what you hear of the two will help you pick out characteristics of nasal singing.
And coming back to her, Namie Amuro is perhaps the best (and easiest) example of nasal versus diaphragm (at times) or at least back-of-the-throat singing since she changed her singing style from her debut days.
Original Chase the Chase (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouGzPlP3SFw...&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-9Nh-vhZ0
Recent Chase the Chance (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rai00wt_BNI
Original Body Feels Exit (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSMlFpmAJ8...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJsZM1N2eM
Recent Body Feels Exit (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ7fiQp040...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGPE_c8DV4...feature=related
Sorry that I couldn't say anything (much) about the OP's question regarding H!P in particular, but these, I think, are the easiest examples to familiarize people with the difference in sound. Diaphragm singing requires a hell of a lot more training than nasal or throat singing since the breathing training requires tightening and toning of the diaphragm itself, and so when vocal coaches are looking for the quickest route to get a star out into the public faster, they'll sometimes opt for teaching the singer nasal singing instead. Nasal is potentially a lot more harmful to the singer in the long-run, but it's easier to teach, easier to learn, and easier to perform--especially when dancing requires so much breathing training besides that.
There are plenty of people on the forum with much more knowledge about this than I since it's been six or seven years since I was a singer myself and I was never formally trained.
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='showraniy' post='77145' date='Mar 15 2010, 04:20 PM']fun stuff[/quote]
Thanks for this! Not only was it helpful, but it was very fun looking back at some hilarious old videos.
I got the sense that diaphram singing has more....power behind it. It doesn't sound so constricted.
Thanks for this! Not only was it helpful, but it was very fun looking back at some hilarious old videos.
I got the sense that diaphram singing has more....power behind it. It doesn't sound so constricted.
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Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='eri' post='77156' date='Mar 15 2010, 08:56 PM'][quote name='showraniy' post='77145' date='Mar 15 2010, 04:20 PM']fun stuff[/quote]
Thanks for this! Not only was it helpful, but it was very fun looking back at some hilarious old videos.
I got the sense that diaphram singing has more....power behind it. It doesn't sound so constricted.
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You're welcome! And yeah, that's essentially the difference.
If I could liken it to cars (since that's also my most recent obsession), I'd say that you could say nasal and diaphragm singing could be likened to automatic versus manual cars. Nasal and automatic cars do quite a bit of the work for the person and don't require as much knowledge or work on that person's part, but also restrict the person's level of control and ability to go farther and do more. Manual cars and diaphragm singing both require a lot more knowledge on the part of the person, but in turn give the person much more control without all the restrictions. Deeper notes can be achieved, higher notes can be hit with less difficulty, and the knowledge to drive a manual/sing with the diaphragm stays with the person forever and only lets them improve thereon.
... Did that just complicate it more or did it actually help? Sometimes eloquence fails me, so I never know if what's going on in my head translates well to other people.
Thanks for this! Not only was it helpful, but it was very fun looking back at some hilarious old videos.
I got the sense that diaphram singing has more....power behind it. It doesn't sound so constricted.
[/quote]
You're welcome! And yeah, that's essentially the difference.
If I could liken it to cars (since that's also my most recent obsession), I'd say that you could say nasal and diaphragm singing could be likened to automatic versus manual cars. Nasal and automatic cars do quite a bit of the work for the person and don't require as much knowledge or work on that person's part, but also restrict the person's level of control and ability to go farther and do more. Manual cars and diaphragm singing both require a lot more knowledge on the part of the person, but in turn give the person much more control without all the restrictions. Deeper notes can be achieved, higher notes can be hit with less difficulty, and the knowledge to drive a manual/sing with the diaphragm stays with the person forever and only lets them improve thereon.
... Did that just complicate it more or did it actually help? Sometimes eloquence fails me, so I never know if what's going on in my head translates well to other people.
Re: Question about singing styles and vocal training in H!P
[quote name='showraniy' post='77145' date='Mar 16 2010, 09:20 AM'][quote name='aine' post='77037' date='Mar 13 2010, 07:21 PM'][quote name='eri' post='77034' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:06 PM']I can't discern a nasal voice from a diaphram voice. Can you two list some examples?[/quote][quote name='The Turtle Moves' post='77035' date='Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM']You and me both <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />.[/quote]
Thirded.[/quote]
As mentioned in the previous thread about Ayumi's voice, the main popular singer I know of to sing 100% nasally is BoA, so I'll drop a few examples of nasal singers compared to diaphragm singers:
Nasal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUIn4642ZU...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyh3qNPfYI
Koharu was/is also very nasal when she sings, but it's easier to hear the difference in singing technique comparing this to the original. Nacchi wasn't a diaphragm singer, as mentioned above, but maybe just comparing what you hear of the two will help you pick out characteristics of nasal singing.
And coming back to her, Namie Amuro is perhaps the best (and easiest) example of nasal versus diaphragm (at times) or at least back-of-the-throat singing since she changed her singing style from her debut days.
Original Chase the Chase (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouGzPlP3SFw...&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-9Nh-vhZ0
Recent Chase the Chance (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rai00wt_BNI
Original Body Feels Exit (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSMlFpmAJ8...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJsZM1N2eM
Recent Body Feels Exit (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ7fiQp040...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGPE_c8DV4...feature=related
Sorry that I couldn't say anything (much) about the OP's question regarding H!P in particular, but these, I think, are the easiest examples to familiarize people with the difference in sound. Diaphragm singing requires a hell of a lot more training than nasal or throat singing since the breathing training requires tightening and toning of the diaphragm itself, and so when vocal coaches are looking for the quickest route to get a star out into the public faster, they'll sometimes opt for teaching the singer nasal singing instead. Nasal is potentially a lot more harmful to the singer in the long-run, but it's easier to teach, easier to learn, and easier to perform--especially when dancing requires so much breathing training besides that.
There are plenty of people on the forum with much more knowledge about this than I since it's been six or seven years since I was a singer myself and I was never formally trained.
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Wow, what an amazing contrast. Thank you for those Namie links, Showraniy. I don't know that I would have been able to make that distinction between the two if you hadn't pointed it out (and I've seen all these before). Namie's singing is obviously "better" coming from the diaphragm, yet I find myself liking the nasal versions more. It could simply be a matter of preferring the studio recording over the live, but it could also be that the nasal singing gives her voice the youthful sass that I enjoyed so much in her earlier recordings. I have all the Namie performances/videos you linked to on DVD, so I can study this more when I have the time.
' />.[/quote]Thirded.[/quote]
As mentioned in the previous thread about Ayumi's voice, the main popular singer I know of to sing 100% nasally is BoA, so I'll drop a few examples of nasal singers compared to diaphragm singers:
Nasal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUIn4642ZU...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyh3qNPfYI
Koharu was/is also very nasal when she sings, but it's easier to hear the difference in singing technique comparing this to the original. Nacchi wasn't a diaphragm singer, as mentioned above, but maybe just comparing what you hear of the two will help you pick out characteristics of nasal singing.
And coming back to her, Namie Amuro is perhaps the best (and easiest) example of nasal versus diaphragm (at times) or at least back-of-the-throat singing since she changed her singing style from her debut days.
Original Chase the Chase (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouGzPlP3SFw...&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-9Nh-vhZ0
Recent Chase the Chance (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rai00wt_BNI
Original Body Feels Exit (nasal):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSMlFpmAJ8...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJsZM1N2eM
Recent Body Feels Exit (diaphragm):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJ7fiQp040...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGPE_c8DV4...feature=related
Sorry that I couldn't say anything (much) about the OP's question regarding H!P in particular, but these, I think, are the easiest examples to familiarize people with the difference in sound. Diaphragm singing requires a hell of a lot more training than nasal or throat singing since the breathing training requires tightening and toning of the diaphragm itself, and so when vocal coaches are looking for the quickest route to get a star out into the public faster, they'll sometimes opt for teaching the singer nasal singing instead. Nasal is potentially a lot more harmful to the singer in the long-run, but it's easier to teach, easier to learn, and easier to perform--especially when dancing requires so much breathing training besides that.
There are plenty of people on the forum with much more knowledge about this than I since it's been six or seven years since I was a singer myself and I was never formally trained.
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Wow, what an amazing contrast. Thank you for those Namie links, Showraniy. I don't know that I would have been able to make that distinction between the two if you hadn't pointed it out (and I've seen all these before). Namie's singing is obviously "better" coming from the diaphragm, yet I find myself liking the nasal versions more. It could simply be a matter of preferring the studio recording over the live, but it could also be that the nasal singing gives her voice the youthful sass that I enjoyed so much in her earlier recordings. I have all the Namie performances/videos you linked to on DVD, so I can study this more when I have the time.
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