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The shadiest thing is that if she WAS misbehaving, I doubt she'd still even get kicked for it, as long as it all stayed behind the scenes. I don't believe the stories about her misbehaving in front of reporters, because that shit would've been all over the place immediately. If she wasn't kicked out for bullying, then it has to be a threat to the other members to stop stepping any toes out of line.
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[quote name='Ari' timestamp='1343631078' post='131116']

So KKS is pretty much out to get Hwayoung: http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/ccm-reve ... ing-ensues



Like seriously there are so many other ways to handle this, but they are obviously trying to make Hwayoung the bad guy. Though we probably won't ever know the real story anyway :/

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"We will not be revealing any more of Hwayoung’s similar behaviors outside of the ‘Music Bank’ incident because we do want to protect her" - their slave-trader manager.



What an asshole, as usual.



I wouldn't even be surprised if he/the company pressured the members to say negative things about her on twitter.
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It's insane that the KKS dude thought this would go over well. He's single-handedly destroyed T-ara's reputation in the eyes of a ton of fans over the past year or so. You can ignore everything the members said and still find the group to just be frustrating to be a fan of because of his ass.



The worst move he's made so far is saying she was misbehaving in front of fans and reporters, because anyone with half a brain knows that's untrue or we would've already heard all about it long ago.



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And now the shitstorm of boycotts are coming in. http://www.soompi.com/2012/07/30/netize ... e-fingers/ Eunjung is pretty fucked at this point. I don't see a way for her to really continue for at least the time being in shows. I'm sure in a few months netizens will move on, but they are pretty good at demanding people's lives been ruined. If the bullying shit is true (which this announcement pretty much convinced me of it being true since it's filled with so much bs reasoning) I don't really feel sorry for her in this case.





Aaaaaaand http://www.dkpopnews.net/2012/07/sbs-pd ... uture.html makes me think that in the end we'll find out that pretty much everyone in the industry knew about the bullying, but kept quiet, and now that she's gone they don't really feel the need to be quiet anymore. I can't wait for tomorrow when we get to see just how badly this whole situation will end up exploding in the face of the CEO. I have a hard time even faulting the girls in the group all that much because I have a feeling the environment created by the CEO just created an unbearable atmosphere that probably turned all of them into complete assholes haha, but they could have already been bitches before, who knows.
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@fdp; Do you know who (what) is (an) "SBS PD" ?
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They seem like such a bunch of stuck-up little cunts after reading some of the stuff regarding this scandal, especially the "bullying" thing. I imagine this happens a lot with Kpop groups, but for it to be made very public is a little lazy on the part of management. Good thing I don't give a flying crap about the group, but scandals in these industries are always interesting to read to see how much of what you see is fake.
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@fdp; Do you know who (what) is (an) "SBS PD" ?

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The PD is like the head of that division. There are quite a few and the PD in charge of the drama has already said they won't be pulling Eunjung out.
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[quote name='Ap2000' timestamp='1343653296' post='131132']

@fdp; Do you know who (what) is (an) "SBS PD" ?

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The PD is like the head of that division. There are quite a few and the PD in charge of the drama has already said they won't be pulling Eunjung out.

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Is SBS a channel ? Or is it a production company ? Or something else ?
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Television/radio. They're the ones who air Inkigayo. They also do Star King and Strong Heart. Their wiki.



CCM has said that T-ara's activities are just going to continue as normal, and Sexy Love is still being released August 15th. Why they think that's a good idea when Day by Day already isn't doing so hot, I don't know.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1343665980' post='131140']

Television/radio. They're the ones who air Inkigayo. They also do Star King and Strong Heart. Their wiki.



CCM has said that T-ara's activities are just going to continue as normal, and Sexy Love is still being released August 15th. Why they think that's a good idea when Day by Day already isn't doing so hot, I don't know.

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Ok, thanks for the info.
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[left]Five Fingers PD now says: "We still do not know what kind of action we will be taking in light of recent events." [/left][left]Also, there are new allegations from a dance teacher/choreographer saying they witnessed Hwayoung being physically assaulted by the other members.[/left][left]Annnd according to allkpop (aka take with a grain of salt), "Due to this controversy, it’s been reported that T-ara is also facing issues with their upcoming concert, as all but 600 tickets to their concert were returned."[/left][left]

[/left][left]Also,[/left][left]

[/left][left]"@beyondcloset[/left]
[left]I just searched T-ara on the internet.. 2 months ago I was working on a shoot for a magazine and the next photoshoot was for an idol group. Before it started one girl showed up to greet all the staff members with a 90 degree bow and it left an impression on me so I asked the editor who it was and they said it was T-ara's Hwayoung... Good gracious - Fashion designer Go Tae Young"[/left][left]

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[left]However hard KKS is trying to slander her, many more people are coming to her rescue.[/left][left] [/left][left]

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Now KKS says Hwayoung might be able to re-join. If she realizes her wrongs.

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I found this picture to be quite fitting and calling it the...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7zc9cidC11r3u7if.jpg

... T-tanic.



According to somebody in the comments a dancer said Jiyeon "physically abused" Hwayoung:

http://news.heraldm.com/view.php?ud=201 ... 31003435_C



And a third thing. Apparently the Korean T-ara fans are pretty much backing Hwayoung:

http://www.t-araworld.net/2012/07/the-e ... emove.html

I can't quote the exact thing, since that site is just as disgustingly copyright-ridden as the Korean sites often are, way too go shit admins !

Just look at the first three points.
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I've seen some really good names for the scandal. That's a good one. T-error is good, too.



Edit: More T-error goodness if you want it.
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[left]Core Contents Media recently announced that the alleged back-dancer testimony had been fabricated, and that they had determined this by tracking down the IP address and had submitted a request to the Police. However, the Seoul Seocho Police Department has come forth with a statement that seems to refute what CCM has previously stated.[/left][left]“There is not a single report on file relating to Core Contents Media or T-ara,” said the police department. “The various reports saying that [CCM] has reported this to the cyber investigative squad is false.”[/left]





Jesus christ, this company has no idea what the fuck they're doing lmfao it just keeps getting better, tbh.
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I love that Allkpop has had to make a cliff notes page of all the T-ara news coming out.
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What I think everyone will end up taking away from all this after the dust settles is that CCM is really the worst company at PR ever.
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KKS said in another interview that there is conflict behind the scenes, but definitely no bullying.



This man makes SME (JYJ) and JYPE (Jay) look like the goddamn masters of PR.
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It almost sounded more like he was saying, "Well it was A LITTLE BIT of bullying but that's just how it goes. Also let's not call it bullying. Her fault for being a burden anyway." <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
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Wait, no, now it's because she refused to appear on a music program on the 27th.



That statement about her being hard to live with is odd, because people have said that the girls don't dorm together anymore. A KBS staff member tweeted and said that Hwayoung apparently did actually start throwing her crutches and yelling, but because she was locked out of her dressing room and was crying. THIS IS A MESS.



And:



"Staff members are underpaid and are hurt by everything happening now also."



Aww, they're underpaid? Their CEO should like, do something about that.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1343842957' post='131265']

So, apparently Hyomin's predebut days were just as bad as Jiyeon's.

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How is that "just as bad" ? LOL

It sounds Hyomin sold herself to men for money in a sex circle.



I though Jiyeon only did some webcam stuff.
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Fair enough. Read that as "even worse".



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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1343842957' post='131265']

So, apparently Hyomin's predebut days were just as bad as Jiyeon's.

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How is that "just as bad" ? LOL

It sounds Hyomin sold herself to men for money in a sex circle.



I though Jiyeon only did some webcam stuff.

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Jiyeon did webcam stuff, but she was underaged, and it's widely speculated that CCM might, I stress might, as in it's purely rumors, have had some hand in it. That said, underaged prostitution is for sure more sordid.

Anyway, not only was Hyomin apparently an underaged prostitute, but she also had to transfer schools because she was accused of bullying. Ruh-roh.
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From what I can understand: T-ara is a bunch of trouble-kids...



But how much of the rumours are true? and how much shall we bevelive?
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I always believed that was Jiyeon in the webcam. It looks so much like her and they've got the same marks and everything. As for Hyomin, she would have had a lot more deniability if not for that email.
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I always thought that Jiyeon is a bitch. She has that kidn of face.
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KKS released a handwritten letter.



“I deeply apologize for the lacking explanation given for the termination of Hwayoung‘s contract, which led to several bullying misconceptions. From this point forward, I will work hard to be a role model for the entertainment industry by being more careful and thoughtful of my actions,” he wrote.



“Also, I would like to apologize to both Hwayoung and T-ara, as well as their parents, for inflicting pain. I believe that the members of T-Jinyo as well as Sajungyeon have nothing but love for T-ara. I thank everyone who worried about T-ara and promise to meet the representatives of those groups at any time.”



Kim Kwang Soo also noted Hwayoung’s current situation, saying “Wherever Hwayoung goes, I will do my best to help her study music and become a wonderful rapper and artist. I ask for much love towards Hwayoung and her musical future.”



He concluded by looking back upon his actions during the whole situation. “In the future, I will try to be in touch with the public opinion and become more careful. I apologize once again for the misconceptions and being a social issue. Lastly, I would also like to apologize to the media outlets and its representatives.”
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T-ara can't seem to catch a break.



Now Soyeon's been in a minor car accident. (Though I don't know how minor it can be when your car flips over. Thanks Allkpop for making it seem like a minor thing.)
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Minor probably because she's apparently not hurt.
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Minor probably because she's apparently not hurt.

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The best part about this whole thing is that people are claiming conspiracy that the car flipped over and she wasn't hurt, like they're making it up or something. It's called engineering people, and lots of times, it turns out well.
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