Best and Worst Singers in H!P's History?

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Best: Nakazawa, Fujimoto, Ayaya, Danielle, Yuki Maeda.



Worst: Koharu, Konno, Eri Kamei, Aika, Sayumi



This is off the top of my head, and doesn't include any of the singers from groups that I don't follow.



Takahashi is over rated by H!P fans, IMO. She started out very strong, but stopped improving after a few years, when she started to regress as a singer.
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[quote name='tangerine' timestamp='1319394124' post='111076']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319393568' post='111075']

Best: Mitsui Aika, Junjun, Nakajima Saki

Worst: All of Berryz Koubou, Linlin, Okai Chisato

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I understand the confusion, but part of my opinion is based off of quality of voice, because unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not, and since songs with dances frequently don't have much in the way of range, it's fairly possible that the almost monotonous parts are meant to be like that. Also, with the ºC-ute girls, I'm going off of more recent songs, because I can't hold sounding like a child against them when they were actually children, and Berryz Koubou still sounds really childlike, but also I don't listen to many of their songs, so that may not still be the case with all of its members.

I'm curious though as to why you don't agree with Mitsui Aika, like I get that I like Junjun and not Linlin and basically everyone else is the other way around, but I guess I haven't heard much negativity towards Aika, so please explain, I am intrigued
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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

I haven't heard much negativity towards Aika

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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not.

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What.
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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

[quote name='tangerine' timestamp='1319394124' post='111076']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319393568' post='111075']

Best: Mitsui Aika, Junjun, Nakajima Saki

Worst: All of Berryz Koubou, Linlin, Okai Chisato

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<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

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I understand the confusion, but part of my opinion is based off of quality of voice, because unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not

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Ahh, so the songs were written to sound off-key! Got it. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hatthe.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whatthe:' />
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I think most bases have been covered as far as who I personally consider to be the best and the worst, but I think that Mika Todd deserves an honorable mention. I thought she did really well in Mini Moni (at least in the recordings, I didn't watch too many of their live performances) and continues to in whatever band... thing... she's got going on, as well as some solo work I've seen her do on youtube.
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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319393568' post='111075']

Best: Abe Natsumi, Fujimoto Miki, Kamei Eri, Tanaka Reina, Junjun, Mitsui Aika, Tsuji Nozomi, Nakajima Saki, Goto Maki, Iida Kaori

Worst: All of Berryz Koubou, Michishige Sayumi, Linlin, Okai Chisato

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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not

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[quote name='Farrah' timestamp='1319491917' post='111142']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not.

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What.

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If you read the rest of that sentence, you should have been able to understand it, a lot of people say that certain idols don't have much range, but a lot of songs don't have much range, hence the whole "monotonous" part of that sentence, I wasn't really talking about when people are off key during performances or what not.
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[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319509919' post='111194']

[quote name='Farrah' timestamp='1319491917' post='111142']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not.

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What.

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If you read the rest of that sentence, you should have been able to understand it, a lot of people say that certain idols don't have much range, but a lot of songs don't have much range, hence the whole "monotonous" part of that sentence, I wasn't really talking about when people are off key during performances or what not.

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LOL I read the rest of your sentence, you simply failed to properly explain yourself, bro. The way you wrote it made it sound as though you were referring to being off key as simply "singing in a monotone", which is lulzy in and of it's self and I was clearly not the only one confused.
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[quote name='Farrah' timestamp='1319511143' post='111196']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319509919' post='111194']

[quote name='Farrah' timestamp='1319491917' post='111142']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

unless one has the sheet music, one can't KNOW if they're hitting the right notes or not.

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What.

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If you read the rest of that sentence, you should have been able to understand it, a lot of people say that certain idols don't have much range, but a lot of songs don't have much range, hence the whole "monotonous" part of that sentence, I wasn't really talking about when people are off key during performances or what not.

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LOL I read the rest of your sentence, you simply failed to properly explain yourself, bro. The way you wrote it made it sound as though you were referring to being off key as simply "singing in a monotone", which is lulzy in and of it's self and I was clearly not the only one confused.

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I know, I'm sorry, I don't express myself through writing and typing very well, but that's why I put in that part about the small range.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1319491828' post='111141']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

I haven't heard much negativity towards Aika

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Where have you been?

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Not on opinionated places, this is the first and only board(I think that's what it's called), that I've ever been on, which is also why I'm kind of awkward and trying to explain my opinions when people say that they are confused about them, so I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to do that.
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Also explains why you thought it was okay to double post. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
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Best:

Kaori, Yuko, Kei, Mari, Yossie, Ai, Ayaya, Airi, Risako, everyone in T&C, Ootani



Worst:

Asami, Sayumi, Miki, Koharu, Aika, Man-o, pretty much everyone in C-ute who isn't Airi, Yurina
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Asami

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[quote name='Rinnie' timestamp='1319555916' post='111217']

Asami

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I seriously went like `Who?`

Konno is just so `Konno` or `Konkon` that whenever see her name as `Asami` it takes a while to connect the pieces.
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Technically speaking, Iida Kaori probably wasn't the best, but, especially in her solo works, she shined and her voice was absolutely a perfect match. Miki was also in a similar boat, but I don't know that her solo works were a perfect match. Maeda Yuki and Nakazawa Yuko get high marks.



Worst? I'd go with Konno, Ogawa, Niigaki, Ishikawa, Sayumi, or cutesy-Reina It's gotta be Horseface McGee.
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Looks like half the people here probably listened to 2 or 3 songs or performances by a certain person or group and wrote these lists. Seriously. I think Madara put it best, except he forgot to put Momoko in the "bad voices" section.



[quote name='neshcom' timestamp='1319612856' post='111249']

Technically speaking, Iida Kaori probably wasn't the best, but, especially in her solo works, she shined and her voice was absolutely a perfect match.[/quote]

Fucking this.
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Shame her solo work was boring as shit and I fell asleep before she began to sing <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' />
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Glad to see that people are still so closed-minded when it comes to music. Carry on.
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I've never actually gotten around to her solo work. I should do that sometime.





[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319511794' post='111198']

[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1319491828' post='111141']

[quote name='NekoKai' timestamp='1319491742' post='111140']

I haven't heard much negativity towards Aika

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Where have you been?

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Not on opinionated places, this is the first and only board(I think that's what it's called), that I've ever been on, which is also why I'm kind of awkward and trying to explain my opinions when people say that they are confused about them, so I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to do that.

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Oh, okay. I was wondering what forums you've been on, because there's plenty of Aika hate, even on H!O.
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[quote name='rob' timestamp='1319634001' post='111257']

Shame her solo work was boring as shit and I fell asleep before she began to sing <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' />

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Kaori did an album where she sang songs in languages other than Japanese, including French, Italian and English. It's quite an amazing work. If you don't have patience for the kinds of songs she sings, that can interfere with your enjoyment of them. I can understand that. I love Kaori, but I have to be in a certain mood to listen to her albums.



Have you ever watched her sing a solo? She's fascinating to watch, because she totally zones out, immersing herself in the song, as if nothing else exists. I don't know that any other H!P soloist has ever quite performed that way.
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The Best: Sugaya Risako, most anyone from Melon Kinenbi, Niigaki Risa, Iida Kaori. Oh, and Abe Natsumi.

The WORST: Michishige Sayumi, Wada Ayaka, and Hagiwara Mai.
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[quote name='Kira Neko' timestamp='1319655723' post='111276']

The Best: Sugaya Risako, most anyone from Melon Kinenbi, Niigaki Risa, Iida Kaori. Oh, and Abe Natsumi.

The WORST: Michishige Sayumi, Wada Ayaka, and Hagiwara Mai.

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So you joined yesterday JUST to diss Al's favorite member (Sayumi) and mine (MaiMai). You sure don't know how to make friends around here, do you? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... omgwtf.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':omgwtf:' />
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[quote name='rob' timestamp='1319634001' post='111257']

Shame her solo work was boring as shit and I fell asleep before she began to sing <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' />

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It's definitely not standard fare as far as H!P stuff goes, but her solo albums are some of the only albums in my playlist for when I need relaxation or background music. They're almost passive songs, but, for what they are, they kind of captivate me.



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[quote name='Kira Neko' timestamp='1319655723' post='111276']

The Best: Sugaya Risako, most anyone from Melon Kinenbi, Niigaki Risa, Iida Kaori. Oh, and Abe Natsumi.

The WORST: Michishige Sayumi, Wada Ayaka, and Hagiwara Mai.

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Sayumi isn't even allowable as a choice when she herself says she's their worst singer. It's people like Koharu that actually THINK they can sing that belong here.
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[quote name='Al Kusanagi' timestamp='1319669928' post='111293']

Sayumi isn't even allowable as a choice when she herself says she's their worst singer. It's people like Koharu that actually THINK they can sing that belong here.

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BEST:

Riho Sayashi, Mizuki Fukumura, Ai Kago, Reina Tanaka.
WORST:

Sayuki Takagi ( I HATE YOU! ), Erina Ikuta ( I like her but not her singing ) and Chisato Okai (i personally hate her too)
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Not only did you bump a three year old thread up, but you did it with a terrible opinion.
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Everyone has their own opinion, you can't fault them for having one. It's such an old bump. I had to go back to see what I wrote. Might as well make it a worthwhile bump considering how old this thread is. Right?

 

 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Shoujo Q" data-cid="109979" data-time="1318194659">
People are missing, because I don't care either way enough about them to add them to the list and new girls aren't added because of obvious newbie reasons.

Also this is my unbiased opinion, mainly because some of my favorites are knee deep in the suck pile, but I still got nothin' but love for them. NOTHIN' BUT LOVE!

 
My Best Singers List

Yuko Nakazawa

Asuka Fukuda

Kei Yusada

Abe Natsumi

Takahashi Ai

Kago Ai

Kamei Eri

Fujimoto Miki

Okai Chisato

Suzuki Airi

Matsuura Aya

LinLin

Miyamoto Karin

 

 
My Singers who have bad days but can sing well enough that it doesn't suck List

 

Sugaya Risako

Tsugunaga Momoko

Natsuyaki Miyabi

Tanaka Reina

Niigaki Risa

Maeda Yuuka

Fukuda Kanon

Goto Maki

 
My Go Away Now Please Dear God why are YOU SINGING! List

 

Iida Kaori

Yaguchi Mari

Ishikawa Rika

Michishige Sayumi

Mano Erina

Wada Ayaka

JunJun

Mitsui Aika

Tsuji Nozomi

Yajima Maimi

Kusumi Koharu

Konno Asami
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Of course I need to add now to this list since we have new H!P members. 

 
Best Singers List

Oda Sakura

Tamura Meimi
Takagi Sayuki
Kanazawa Tomoko
Sugaya Risako
Natsuyaki Miyabi
 
Have Bad Days But Decent Singers
Sayashi Riho
Fukumura Mizuki
Sato Masaki
Suzuki Kanon

Katsuta Rina

Wada Ayaka 
 
You can't sing, but at least you're trying right?
Takeuchi Akari
Kudo Haruka (I think she can sing, but I've yet to hear a song she's sung that I like. They or her pick crap songs for her to sing. Same goes for Takeuchi.)

Nakanishi Kana

Ikuta Erina

Iikubo Haruna

Ishida Ayumi

 

 

*Miyazaki Yuka (TBA I haven't heard her sing solo enough yet.)

*Uemura Akari (TBA I haven't heard her sing solo enough yet.)
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[quote="RihoFan"]
BEST:

Riho Sayashi, Mizuki Fukumura, Ai Kago, Reina Tanaka.
WORST:

Sayuki Takagi ( I HATE YOU! ), Erina Ikuta ( I like her but not her singing ) and Chisato Okai (i personally hate her too)
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Chisato is awesome. Did you hear her solo of "Only You" at the 2013 Yaon Premium Live show? Someone here can link to it. It's the one where she had a headset problem and they came out and fixed it onstage mid-performance and she never once broke a note.
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