[2015.04.15] Morning Musume.'15 - Seishun Kozo ga Naiteiru / Yuugure wa Ameagari / Ima Koko Kara

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It's actually only 2k less than TokiSora's first day.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="187193" data-time="1429114341">
Holy shit, I was expecting JSB to beat them but not by that much.</blockquote>


But they are also a huge distance from #3.
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Well I knew they would be. They always pick slow weeks, which this was before JSB announced their single.
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This whole single was kind of a mess.
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I'm not upset at all. Like someone said, this was 2k less than Toki Sora's first day sales. They're going to make 100k overall regardless and that's all I'm pleased with.
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[quote="Anderei"]
Holy shit, I was expecting JSB to beat them but not by that much.
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I fully expected it, they're doing the dome tour ticket thing again with their single.
 
Honestly I'm not super disappointed in the sales, it's not that terrible, they just won't get first this week.
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Yeah but I didn't think it would near quadruple their sales since there's another single coming out next week.
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So, am I wrong or the #1 got over 420k on their first day? that's crazy
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="187222" data-time="1429155600">Yeah but I didn't think it would near quadruple their sales since there's another single coming out next week.</blockquote>
Ah I see. Yeah I didn't think about that.
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[quote="Derby"]
So, am I wrong or the #1 got over 420k on their first day? that's crazy
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Tokyo Dome tickets were bundled in iirc
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From what I understand it's actually buy concert ticket, get free CD and it counts as a purchase.
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Okay sooooo according to the making of, Kanon was there on the original filming day for sure... So was this like some way to try and get Kanon wota to buy the DVD? I don't think her fanbase is *that* big where it'd affect it that much. Was it simply to promote J=J? Though for a lot of foreign fans it seems to have done the opposite. It's all just very interesting XD
 
Also I just realized that 12ki is the first gen to come in since they've been doing triple-a singles.... 9ki, 10ki and even 11ki started when it was the old way of A-side and B-side... Even for 9ki and 10ki it took 4 or so singles until it turned into a double-a single. Thinking about it in this way, it really must've been tough for 12ki. They said it was pretty difficult...
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Quite a lot of people have said that come june or july Oricon are going to stop counting the concert tickets = CD method. So first music cards and now concert tickets. I wonder if they'll stop counting handshake tickets. Personally I'm not entirely sure they will because not all CD's sold at handshake events actually count anyway.
 
I'm happy with the results of day 1 :) They didn't make the #1 spot but their sales are stable which is great news :)
 
Edit: However I do think that UFP need to use a particular member or particular members of MoMusu to get the groups name out there through variety shows and the like. That was one of the main things that Sayu did for the group and even though the sales don't appear to have been affected all that much by her graduation just yet I still think this is a good idea to keep up the momentum.
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[quote="ShiroiChanUK"]
Edit: However I do think that UFP need to use a particular member or particular members of MoMusu to get the groups name out there through variety shows and the like. That was one of the main things that Sayu did for the group and even though the sales don't appear to have been affected all that much by her graduation just yet I still think this is a good idea to keep up the momentum.
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[quote="ShiroiChanUK"]
Edit: However I do think that UFP need to use a particular member or particular members of MoMusu to get the groups name out there through variety shows and the like. That was one of the main things that Sayu did for the group and even though the sales don't appear to have been affected all that much by her graduation just yet I still think this is a good idea to keep up the momentum.
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Hasn't that been Kanon? I remember her doing a couple of episodes for Arashi's show.
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And Eripon. But compared to non-H!P idols they barely do variety at all.
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[quote="ShiroiChanUK"]
 
 
Edit: Apart from a handshake ticket do the box sets come with anything extra at all?
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I bought the Angerme box sets so this isn't 100% accurate, but no, they don't.
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Haruna, Erina, and the 12th Gen on Jpop Ranking.
 
 
I don't usually post all the promo the girls do here because some of it's meh (pretty boring). But this was special because the Jpop Ranking host in American and you know he was going to talk to Miki in English and he didn't disappoint. And neither did Miki! 
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Miki's English WILL NEVER GET OLD. I wonder if she minds it, since it's basically like a party trick at this point?
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She doesn't! She's written on her blog a lot that she loves any chance to write or speak in English, since those are the main methods she uses to remember and learn more of it.
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Oh yay! That's so great. 
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[quote="Shoujo Q"]
Haruna, Erina, and the 12th Gen on Jpop Ranking.
 
 
I don't usually post all the promo the girls do here because some of it's meh (pretty boring). But this was special because the Jpop Ranking host in American and you know he was going to talk to Miki in English and he didn't disappoint. And neither did Miki! 
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When is it in the video? I..dont want to watch all 20 minutes. 
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Eri, just at 4:15. All she does is introduce herself.
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[quote="JPope"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ShiroiChanUK" data-cid="187242" data-time="1429219992">
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Edit: However I do think that UFP need to use a particular member or particular members of MoMusu to get the groups name out there through variety shows and the like. That was one of the main things that Sayu did for the group and even though the sales don't appear to have been affected all that much by her graduation just yet I still think this is a good idea to keep up the momentum.
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[quote="iDOL1641"]
Hasn't that been Kanon? I remember her doing a couple of episodes for Arashi's show.
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[quote="Anderei"]
And Eripon. But compared to non-H!P idols they barely do variety at all.
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This is what I mean. I know they have their "variety members" but they need to be doing variety way more often. They only ever seem to be active when there's a new single coming out. That's not really good enough.
 
[quote="kitaoji"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ShiroiChanUK" data-cid="187175" data-time="1429094901">
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Edit: Apart from a handshake ticket do the box sets come with anything extra at all?
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I bought the Angerme box sets so this isn't 100% accurate, but no, they don't.
 
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Weekly rank is 2 with 101k sold.
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Soundscan:

#9 Regular A - 8,301

#11 Regular B - 7,370

#12 Limited D - 5,787

#14 Limited A - 4,626

#16 Limited B - 3,190

#19 Limited C - 3,010


Total is 32,304 so about 70% of Oricon's total came from non-regular vendors, so probably handshakes. JSB were #1 but if you add up the editions, without handshakes from MM and tickets from JSB, MM did outsell them by about 3k. So, uh, small victory.
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Great! :D I'm really happy with these sales especially the Soundscan sales :) A nice amount of general interest in MoMusu :)
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The big difference between the numbers of both sites is stunning.
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Soundscan might also include foreign sales, which Oricon does not, but I'm not sure. I know someone was wondering how Arashi had 40k more in Soundscan vs. Oricon and that was an explanation given (since Arashi doesn't do anything really for their releases).
 
But yeah the difference is crazy.
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