The Official Unofficial Kenshuusei Guide + News Source

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Will we really get a new group when Covid brought 2020 to a screeching halt and the last new group has released a whopping one single? I think it’s far more likely they’re getting ready to pad JJ (and maybe Tsubaki, it’s been 5 years and they’re all 18+). Karin is leaving, Tomoko is 25 and they’ve gotta be dropping hints to her, and Sayuki turns 24 in less than six months.
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But why add 16yos then? They won't debut before next year, turning them 17 already, maybe even later. Better stack up on 14yos and throw them in at 16.
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They’re saving them all for MM so they can stick around for 20 years and never leave.
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Here's the ~Hikari~ Setlist!
 
1, Jounetsu Sparkle / Hiromoto, Nishizaki, Murakoshi -> Yonemura, Hirayama, Uemura  Dancing: Matsubara, Saito, Arisawa, Ishiguri
2. Warui Hito / Yamada, Onoda, Kitahara Dancing: Hiromoto, Yonemura, Yofuu
MC
3. Kagiri Aru Moment / Arisawa, Ishiyama
4. Mistake / KSS Unit
5. Teion Yakedo / KSS Unit
6. Toei Oedo-sen no Roppongi Eki de Dakishimete / KSS Unit
MC
7. Borderline (Dancing only) / Kubota, Uemura, Ebata, Onoda, Ishiyama
8. Thanks! (Singing only) / Ishiguri, Hirayama   || Kubota, Hiromoto
9. Sexy Cat no Enzetsu (Dancing only) / Yonemura, Kitahara, Nishizaki, Yofuu, Ishiyama, Onoda, Uemura, Ebata
10. My Days for You (Singing only) / Nakayama || Yofuu
MC
11. Pittari Shitai X'mas / Onoda, Murakoshi, Uemura
12. Renai Bugyo / Kitahara, Hirayama, Nishizaki, Matsubara
13. Mikan / Nakayama, Hashida, Nishizaki, Matsubara
14. Special Genera~tion / Uemura, Yofuu, Yamada, Hiromoto
MC
15. 43do / ALL
16. Rainbow / ALL
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While you were sleeping. I kept track of some eggs. Some came and hatched while we were away, but I didn't lose track of a single one!

So, first post is updated, and because I didn't want to go through that massive list of hatched eggs and clean up my mess. You all get a special peek at my mad Eggkss list that I made after the BBS went down because I'm crazy. :crazy: It will probably be updated before I come back around here to clean up the first post.

The Google Doc of Eggkss


As you can see, mad dash of auditions is partly due to the fact that they cleaned out the kenshuusei in the last year and throwing a big name into an audition tends to pull more fruit than a crusty kenshuusei audition. The last time the trainees were this bare was in 2011 after the great Egg dump. So I suspect the incubators are going to get stuffed soon with fresh new blood.

Crazy Yulia is now the senior egg. :confused:
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It's funny how Yulia is still one of the youngest members though :lol:
I've got my eyes on Hinoha. She could be Kaede's sister.

There's not a lot members in the KSS right now, but I think we will get new ones from the upcoming audition. I just wonder if it's "only" 2 again, or if we get a few more. Subjectively it seems like previous auditions brought in around 5 or more KSS.
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Just thought I'd put this here

===Tracklist===

1. Special Genera~tion / Yonemura, Kubota, Onoda, Murakoshi
2. This is Unmei / Kitahara, Hirayama, Ishiyama, Yoshida
3. Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe / Ishiguri, Saito, Matsubara, Hashida
4. Bookmark

The release is on a!o....very nice that it's the full songs and not a short version...hope we get the full release soon!
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We have two new Kenshuusei!!!
Gotou Hana (後藤花) from Saitama
Maeshima Karin (前島花凛), from Osaka

Ages unknown but they are around Yulia’s age.
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Seems like Up Front doesn't want many KSS at the moment. I guess at this point KSS honestly hope for a debut, but the more girls they add the less likely it becomes.
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The KSS lately have been leftovers from auditions. I expect the next audition might get more because it’s a Morning Musume and a Juice audition. The last few weren’t as high profile even if it was for Established H!P groups.
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===Setlist from ~Ibuki~===

1. Irotoridori Nobi yo!! / KSS (w/o Goto and Maeshima)
2. Omotesandou A5 / KSS
MC - Intro
3. Oyogenai Mermaid / Goto, Maeshima
4. Onna no Sono / KSS
5. Say! Hello! / KSS
6. Warui Hito / KSS
7. Kimi no Toujou / KSS
8. Koi no Crouching Start / OCHA NORMA
9. Go Your Way / OCHA NORMA
10. Date Zenya Kyousoukyoku / OCHA NORMA
MC
11. Ijiwaru Shinaide Dakishimete yo / Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura
12. Haru Urara / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Uemura, Kawashima
13. Subete wa Ai wo Chikara / Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura, Ishiyama, Yoshida
14. Heroine ni Narou ka! / Matsubara, Murakoshi, Ishiyama, Kawashima
15. Yabai Koi no Yaiba / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Yoshida
16. Tanpopo / KSS (w/o Goto and Maeshima)
17. Happy Cracker / KSS (w/o Goto and Maeshima)
MC (Announcement of the KSS Test set for May 3rd)
18. Seishun Beat wa 16 / KSS
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Reposting the new one plus one here since it was actually on the KKS channel and I apparently wasn't awake enough to realize that. (someone remove my post in ocha norma thread please...)

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I fixed!
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So Hello Dream today announced what girls are getting the company-chosen tracks and their own choices

===Company-choice===

1. Onoda / Kimagure Princess
2. Kawashima / Potsurito
3. Hashida / Kimagure Princess
4. Uemura / Nana Korobi Ya Oki
5. Goto / Jinsei wa STEP!
6. Maeshima / Potsurito
7. Ishiyama / Kimagure Princess
8. Matsubara / Potsurito
9. Murakoshi / Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsu Moushin
10. Yoshida / Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsu Moushin

===Girls chosen===
1. Kawashima / Seishun Collection
2. Maeshima / Seishun no Hana
3. Hashida / Peanut Butter Jelly Love
4. Uemura / C\C (Cinderella\Complex)
5. Ishiyama / KEEP ON Joshou Shikou!!
6. Yoshida / Go Girl ~Koi no Victory~
7. Onoda / Mugen Climax
8. Goto / Koko ni Iruzee!
9. Matsubara / Teenage Solution
10. Murakoshi / Jealousy Jealousy
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"Seishun no Hana" immediately jumped out as a surprising choice, and I figured Maeshima had to be one of the older trainees based on that selection. Turns out she's the youngest, which makes it even more surprising to me.
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...so why are they repeating so many songs in the company chosen list lol? Kimagure Princess has been added even THREE times!
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They had a small list to choose from. Obviously they went with more popular songs?

1. Morning Musume's Kimagure Princess
2. ANGERME's Nanakorobi Yaoki
3. Juice=Juice's Potsuri to
4. Tsubaki Factory's Hana Moyou
5. Ame no Mori Kawa Umi's Sokora no Yatsu to wa Onaji ni Saretakunai
6. Kobushi Factory's Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsu Moushin
7. C-ute's Jinsei wa STEP!
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Ah, I see. I thought they'd choose from the whole H!P catalogue.
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DonJuan wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:56 pm Ah, I see. I thought they'd choose from the whole H!P catalogue.
That's what the Girls Choice is for.
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Yeah they probably did this simply because 10 performances wouldn't really make sense? (probably just me)
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Did the girls get to select from the company list, or were they assigned those songs?
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Considering none of the girls picked two of the songs I’m leaning towards, the girls had a choice of the 10 songs. They are going to be judged on singing and dancing for the company picked song.

The latest episode of H!P Dream goes into more detail.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R541127rc


Also noticed this was put up. The girls picking their spots.

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The Annual Kenshuusei Test was Today!
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Setlist
Kimi no Toujou - Hello Pro Kenshuusei
MC - Makoto, Hello Pro Kenshuusei, OCHA NORMA

Assigned Songs Performances
Kimagure Princess - Onoda Karin
Potsuri to - Kawashima Mifu
Kimagure Princess - Hashida Honoka
Nana Korobi Ya Oki - Uemura Hasumi
Jinsei wa STEP! - Goto Hana
Potsuri to - Maeshima Karin
Kimagure Princess - Ishiyama Sakura
Potsuri to - Matsubara Yulia
Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsumoushin - Murakoshi Ayana
Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsumoushin - Yoshida Hinoha

Free Chosen Songs Performances
Seishun Collection - Kawashima Mifu
Seishun no Hana - Maeshima Karin
Peanut Butter Jelly Love - Hashida Honoka
C\C (Cinderella\Complex) - Uemura Hasumi
KEEP ON Joshou Shikou!! - Ishiyama Sakura
Go Girl ~Koi no Victory~ - Yoshida Hinoha
Mugen Climax - Onoda Karin
Koko ni Iruzee! - Goto Hana
Teenage Solution - Matsubara Yulia
Jealousy Jealousy - Murakoshi Ayana

Judges Commentaries → Voting Time

MC - Makoto, Araken
Ruby no Yubiwa - Ogata Risa
Mayonaka no Door~stay with me - Ogata Risa
Shoujo K - Miyamoto Karin
Mirai no Filament - Miyamoto Karin
Date Zen'ya Kyousoukyoku - OCHA NORMA
Mistake - OCHA NORMA
Koi no Crouching Start - OCHA NORMA
Jounetsu Sparkle - Hello Pro Kenshuusei
Crying - Uemura Hasumi, Kawashima Mifu, Maeshima Karin
Zettai Idol Sengen - Matsubara Yulia, Onoda Karin, Hashida Honoka, Murakoshi Ayana, Ishiyama Sakura, Yoshida Hinoha, Goto Hana
Irotoridori Nobi yo!! - Hello Pro Kenshuusei

Results Announcement <Spoiler Boxed for your Pleasure>

Public Vote Total votes 4,083
Best Performance Award: Matsubara Yulia (1273 votes)
Semi-Best Performance Award: Onoda Karin (1174 votes)


Judges Awards
Makoto Award: Ishiyama Sakura
Miyamoto Karin/Ogata Risa Award: Kawashima Mifu, Murakoshi Ayana
Mitsubachi Maki Dance Award: Onoda Karin
Ueno Mariko Singing Award: Matsubara Yulia
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Mugen Climax strikes again :ph34r: Kawamuu won 2nd place in 2017 with this song and Mei won the character award 2019 with it :lol:

In general, since the winners have good chances of going to existing or new groups...
I take it for granted that Onoda Karin is supposed to debut someday, maybe even in Juice=Juice or Morning Musume. She's 14 now, so not too young anymore to look out of place. Matsubara Yuriya however... I've never been much of a fan of her, but she seems to be improving lately. Compared to Onoda she'd stick out a lot more though, so I'm not sure if they'd debut her in MM.
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Is this uploaded anywhere?
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Not the whole event afaik - seems like the good old concert rip is dying out.

Someone uploaded the performances of Yuriya and and Karin, though:



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Thanks for those. Yulia has improved quite a bit, to the point where I think they can debut her in MM, which is what I predict will happen. I don't think she's a fit for Juice=Juice, although that might just be me holding onto what J=J was, and they're obviously not that anymore.

Onoda did about as well as a trainee could do with Mugan Climax, but that's a tough song to pull off. I remember the members of C-ute saying how they all struggled during the recording of it. I wouldn't be surprised to see her end up in J=J.
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Here's a link to Yulia's and Karin's assigned performances on Bilibili. Yulia's "Bitansan" is actually pretty good -- better than her "Teenage Solution" IMO -- so maybe she is a fit for the new-school J=J. Karin seems like one of those girls who would fit in with whichever group she's added to.
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Why is no one talking about Mifu Kawashima? I think she sounds better than both Yulia and Karin.

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It got deleted before I could watch it, but not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if UF played favourites lol.

/edit: ...or the public lol.
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