[2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night

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I really like Utakata, it's giving me AKB vibes though (just an observation). I do wish that with the music video they had taken it one step further and had the girls in either 70's or 80's clothes during the scenes where they were just dancing around for fun. It would have been cheap to do as well (unless they wanted to buy everything new..).
Unfortunately this single as a whole is pretty weak compared to the singles that the rest of H!P has been putting out (with the exception of JJ). I think MM is kind of stuck right now. They're letting the formation dance thing go and they lost their center, who the original reason for a more dance based group. 12th gen hasn't been strong enough to really contribute anything to the group. I think that why MM feels so weak to me. They don't know what direction to push them in now music wise...and it shows. I think the lack of Tsunku has hit MM the hardest since it always his "daughter".
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At least Zukki gets a dialogue and looks legitimately happy.  This song is definitely going on my dance playlist though <3
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This is probably the best song this single. The girls seemed like they were having a lot of fun in the MV and I like the goofiness of it. I'm glad Zukki got a better song to shine in.
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Saturday Night is definitely the best song on the single. It's the only one where everything fits together smoothly and all the parts sound like they belong to the same song. And it's a legitimately really good disco track. 
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This song makes me so happy. :D
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There's so many cute and nice things in there, I'm really happy.
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This was 10x better than the H!S version shown. Idk if it's enough to save the entire single for me, but it's an MV I'll make sure to watch from here on out. It won't be forgotten =3 
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
 
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
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Handshake info, as provided by Akane-chin (Lolol):
 
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Kudou and Akane had a really funny bit going. Also, Haga reminds me so much of Sayumi, lol.  
 
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[quote="TicTacAnyone"]
This was 10x better than the H!S version shown. Idk if it's enough to save the entire single for me, but it's an MV I'll make sure to watch from here on out. It won't be forgotten =3 
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
 
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
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I think that's just more her having an awkward face.  She needs to find her good faces and stick to them lol.
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http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2016-05-10/


82k sold on 1st day.


Hey!Say!Jump sold 145k so they pretty much already secured their spot but at least MM secured their 2nd place since 3rd only sold 20k.
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82k is lower than I expected it to get but it'll probably be past 100k eventually.
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Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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Again, huh. Well, they also have the handshake events starting this weekend.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>


So their expectations were as low as ours.
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[quote="JPope"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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So their expectations were as low as ours.
 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="197353" data-time="1462991593"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>


No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.


First day is low, but it's higher than TokiSora and Seishun's first days. And Utakata alone is still better than the snooze fest 'we demand to be taken seriously' nonsense that was the last single.
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For comparison, first days for...

Utakata: 82k

Tsumetai: 124k

Oh my wish: 114k

Seishun Kozou: 78k

TIKI BUN: 103k


Tsumetai (grad single) to Utakata (w/o ace): 42k drop

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[quote="Anderei"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="197353" data-time="1462991593">
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>


No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.[/quote]
 
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Stayed at 2 with 9,921 copies. Better second day than expected.
 
HSJ sold a whopping 52k copies today wtf.
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OriconNews coverage of the release event... Idk if it's just the recording but their live sounds.... kinda bad, imo.
 
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Yeah, someone's yelling out their lines. I thought this was a problem with MaiDigi's recording but it was the same with the performance on Buzz Rhythm so...
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Dropped to 3 today with 3,098.
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Yeah, someone's yelling out their lines. I thought this was a problem with MaiDigi's recording but it was the same with the performance on Buzz Rhythm so...
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It's Sato! I'm always surprised as to how you guys never notice it is her whenever there is a super screechy voice fucking up the whole performance or "that one solo line that sounds terrible in every radio rip"  :rofl:
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I'm pretty sure half the group is yelling their lines. I think I can hear some screeching from Zukki, too.
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Yes to both. I didn't want to call out someone :lol:
 
I guess the only ones who aren't shouting are Mizuki (she seemed to have something down her throat though? Her voice sounded pretty weak) and Haruna (her voice is too weak in general).
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Up to #1 with 11,516 copies.
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TV Live of Utakata, not bad.
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Oricon rank is #2 with 114k.


Billboard Japan is reporting 145k.
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Why is there a big difference ?
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Billboard includes digital and this single fared better in that category than usual.
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