[2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Release info threads go here!

Moderators: testacles_4, Shoujo Q, momoirosaya

User avatar
Shoujo Q
つんく♂
Posts: 10278
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:03 pm

[2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Shoujo Q »

Announced on today's <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvei2aa4Pn8&t=5s' class="bbc_url" title="External link">Hello!Station</a>. Tsubaki Factory will be releasing their next single on January 15th. [<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.helloproject.com/news/11091/' class="bbc_url" title="External link">Official Announcement</a>]


Aside from that, Kiki is back! And she's so super tiny cause she's wearing flat shoes and everyone else is in heals. It's super cute! :girlie: :weeeh:
Last edited by Shoujo Q on Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
This is a place where a signature goes. Enjoy some Airi instead.
User avatar
DonJuan
ANGERME
Posts: 2990
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by DonJuan »

Lol, what's up with H!P announcing their singles months in advance? First ANGERME's single in November (announced on September 1st), now Morning Musume's and Tsubaki Factory's singles in January. Is it a strategy to build up hype? To squeeze in even more handshake events (considering Tsubaki had theirs already announced for October)?
Good to see Kiki back, though. I was getting ready to read something about her graduation.
Last edited by DonJuan on Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
DonJuan
ANGERME
Posts: 2990
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by DonJuan »

Yeah, it has been confirmed at one of the latest concerts. KOKORO&KARADA is part of it, Hey! Unfair Baby hasn't been confirmed, though. There's no date yet either, just that it comes out in January.
User avatar
Elpis
ANGERME
Posts: 1546
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:28 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Elpis »

This is exciting! I always enjoy at least one of the songs on Tsubaki Factory releases and it's been a while since there was one.
Formerly Mizura
User avatar
Solarblade
ANGERME
Posts: 1493
Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 6:06 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Solarblade »

From Jplop,
 
Tsubaki announced that they re-recorded "Nineteen no Shinkirou" for Reg A and that the TROLLS ending theme, "Hair up Sora e!" will be on Reg B.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

Full track list confirmed (stolen from JPlop):
 
"Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意識高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

tracklist :

Limited Edition A, B
1. Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma
2. Dakishimerarete Mitai
3. Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma (Instrumental)
4. Dakishimerarete Mitai (Instrumental)

Normal Edition A
3. Nineteen no Shinkirou [Additional Track]
6. Nineteen no Shinkirou (Instrumental)

Normal Edition B
3. Hair up Sora e! [Additional Track]

LE A DVD :
1. Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma (Music Video)
2. Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma (Dance Shot Ver.)

LE B DVD
1. Dakishimerarete Mitai (Music Video)
2. Dakishimerarete Mitai (Dance Shot Ver.)

Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma Lyrics by Nishino Satoshi, Composition by KOUGA, Arranged by Okubo Kaoru
Dakishimerarete Mitai Lyrics by Kodama Ameko, Composition by Ohashi Riko, Arranged by Hirata Shoichiro
Nineteen no Shinkirou Lyrics by Kodama Ameko, Composition by Nakajima Takui, Arranged by Suzuki Shunsuke
<a class="" href="http://www.helloproject.com/release/det ... E-7559/</a>
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

Also, covers are out:
 
Limited A
 
Image
 
Limited B
 
Image
 
Reg A
 
Image
 
Reg B
 
Image
 
 
These are mislabeled, right? The Regular covers are so much better than the limited covers.
Last edited by JPope on Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

<div>Hello Pro Station preview of "Dakishimerarete Mitai"</div>
<div> </div>
<div>My initial reaction is that it fits comfortably in the TF catalog. It's not as immediately satisfying as their previous singles, but it doesn't bore me, either, so it could be one that doesn't really hit me until after repeated listenings.</div>
Last edited by JPope on Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
DonJuan
ANGERME
Posts: 2990
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by DonJuan »

I mean it's pretty and aesthetically pleasing, very Tsubaki indeed. Not a banger yet, but maybe the other song is.
Zoe
こぶしファクトリー
Posts: 578
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:10 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Zoe »

Kishimoto looks like she's plotting something in Limited A...
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

[quote="Zoe"]
Kishimoto looks like she's plotting something in Limited A...
[/quote]
 
Ha ha! She has a definite Sadako vibe going on.
User avatar
momoirosaya
つんく♂
Posts: 5148
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:21 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by momoirosaya »

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="219276" data-time="1576098141"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Zoe" data-cid="219275" data-time="1576095517">
Kishimoto looks like she's plotting something in Limited A...</blockquote>


Ha ha! She has a definite Sadako vibe going on.</blockquote>
Whoever chose that pic did her dirty. Everyone else looks really cute.
rikako♡eripon♡airi
Zoe
こぶしファクトリー
Posts: 578
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:10 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Zoe »

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Saya" data-cid="219285" data-time="1576118761"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="219276" data-time="1576098141"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Zoe" data-cid="219275" data-time="1576095517">
Kishimoto looks like she's plotting something in Limited A...</blockquote>

Ha ha! She has a definite Sadako vibe going on.</blockquote>Whoever chose that pic did her dirty. Everyone else looks really cute.</blockquote>

I feel like I've seen her putting on that look quite a bit lately (reg B is similar). Might just be the image she's trying to go for.
Last edited by Zoe on Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Madara
ANGERME
Posts: 3104
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:33 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Madara »

The full PV for "Dakishimerarete Mitai" (I Just Want to Be Hugged) is up:
 
https://youtu.be/wJqZLPB9Jlg
 
I love it. This could be my third favorite TF song after "Teion Yakedo" and "Fuwari Koi Tokei."
 
Why are all the best songs in H!P going to TF? Is it because they have the best singers?

 
Last edited by Madara on Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
TheParuProject
カントリー・ガールズ
Posts: 354
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:39 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by TheParuProject »

This song is definitely in the lower half of Tsubaki songs, IMO. They're great about putting out standout tracks, and this is just okay.


Sidenote: do you believe they have the best singers, or are you just polling the room? Lol
User avatar
Shoujo Q
つんく♂
Posts: 10278
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:03 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by Shoujo Q »

Hmm I wouldn’t say this was the best song, it’s good but pretty standard and reminds me a great deal of a subpar version of Teion Yakedo. I’ll play it, but I’m sure I’ll forget about it pretty quickly. It’s not memorable.
Image
This is a place where a signature goes. Enjoy some Airi instead.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

The "Teion Yakedo" references are valid, with this being less energetic and a bit more nostalgic in feel. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but "Dakishimerarete Mitai" is still not as good as "Teion Yakedo" to me. It is good though, and quite good at that -- that major 7th chord in the fourth bar of the chorus really elevates the entire song. While I rank this well in the lower half of TF's catalog, that's just a function of it being such a strong catalog. Hopefully "Dilemma" will kick my ass.
 
On a side note, I love how Kiki just slides back into the center like nothing happened, because she just fucking belongs there. 
Last edited by JPope on Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

<div>The short PV for "Dakishimerarete Mitai" was shown on the most recent Hello Pro Station.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is the better of the two songs in just about every respect for me.</div>
User avatar
honey
Juice=Juice
Posts: 180
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:26 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by honey »

[quote="JPope"]
 
<div>The short PV for "Dakishimerarete Mitai" was shown on the most recent Hello Pro Station.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is the better of the two songs in just about every respect for me.</div>
 
[/quote]

dang and the video is honestly really nice too (for h!p standards anyway). i'm excited for this one
User avatar
momoirosaya
つんく♂
Posts: 5148
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:21 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by momoirosaya »

The lyrics are lame for me. Like the situation itself is overdone...
rikako♡eripon♡airi
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

[quote="honey"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="219345" data-time="1576695641">
<div>
 
<div>The short PV for "Dakishimerarete Mitai" was shown on the most recent Hello Pro Station.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is the better of the two songs in just about every respect for me.</div>
 
[/quote]
dang and the video is honestly really nice too (for h!p standards anyway). i'm excited for this one
 
</div>
</blockquote>
 
It seems like we've been getting higher quality videos on a more regular basis from H!P. The bubble-pop on the last beat of the chorus is fucking sweet.
User avatar
TicTacAnyone
ANGERME
Posts: 2519
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:38 am

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by TicTacAnyone »

[quote="Saya"]
The lyrics are lame for me. Like the situation itself is overdone...
[/quote]
 
Shoot, I'll take these "girl who's too conscious when it comes to love" lyrics with an amazing MV and great song (and hopefully dance?) over what MM's been spewing lately. Plus it fits Tsubaki's image, I can't imagine them constantly trying to pull off more Angerme-like songs.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

"Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma" full PV is out.
 
Also, how did no one catch that I put the wrong sing title in the short MV link a few posts up?  :facepalm:  :lol:
Last edited by JPope on Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
DonJuan
ANGERME
Posts: 2990
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by DonJuan »

The titles are so long, I don't even remember them.
It was the same with ANGERME, I know their last single was "something SUNDAY" and "watashi watashi watashi something".

Jinsei Blues and Seishun Night are lame titles but they stick, as do LOVEpedia and K&K. The jury is still out for Ningen Kankei, apparently even Masaki can't remember the name since she advertised it as "Ningen Way Way" at a handshake event lol.
User avatar
momoirosaya
つんく♂
Posts: 5148
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:21 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by momoirosaya »

ZENZEN OKIAGARERENAI sunday


Best song of the year!


I feel like the tiles are easier though if you speak Japanese (sorry if you do, maybe it’s just me then). I feel like these long titles are a trend that hasn’t ended yet. Remember that one super long AKB song??
Last edited by momoirosaya on Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
rikako♡eripon♡airi
User avatar
TicTacAnyone
ANGERME
Posts: 2519
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:38 am

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by TicTacAnyone »

[quote="Saya"]
ZENZEN OKIAGARERENAI sunday


Best song of the year!


I feel like the tiles are easier though if you speak Japanese (sorry if you do, maybe it’s just me then). I feel like these long titles are a trend that hasn’t ended yet. Remember that one super long AKB song??
[/quote]
 
I'm not a huge fan of the long titles, but at least it lets them have more Japanese in the title so we don't have to listen to Janglish while promoting lolol.
 
Also, THE LORE. Lol. Seems like in the end they choose love--Risa heads towards the ferriswheel, which of course we know a ferriswheel was the focal point of I Need You ~Yozora no Kanransha~
Last edited by TicTacAnyone on Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
DonJuan
ANGERME
Posts: 2990
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by DonJuan »

[quote="Saya"]
I feel like the tiles are easier though if you speak Japanese (sorry if you do, maybe it’s just me then).
[/quote]

Not fluently, but a bit :lol: It's okay, I'm just super lazy when it comes to titles lately. I get Hitori de Ikiraresou tte Sorette nee Homete Iru no and back in the day Kono Chikyuu no Heiwa wo Honki de Negatterun da yo was no problem either.
User avatar
JPope
ANGERME
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:57 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by JPope »

I did a proper review for this on my blog for those interested. 
 
Something interesting I noticed about the video is that it was filmed in 4:3 aspect ratio instead of the now-standard wide-screen 16:9. A commenter at YT suggested they were going for a retro style, which based on the  70s TV color grading of the outdoor shots seems like a decent theory, but I think it's something else. Most of the shots are close-ups of one thing or another, and the 4:3 aspect ratio allows the focus of those shots to fill the entire viewing area and appear even bigger and bolder. It also forces the director to be a bit more creative with the in-studio dance shots. Whatever the reason for it, the results are great.
Last edited by JPope on Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
honey
Juice=Juice
Posts: 180
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:26 pm

Re: [2020.01.15] Tsubaki Factory - "Ishiki Takai Otome no Dilemma / Dakishimerarete Mitai" (意? ?高い乙女のジレンマ/抱きしめられてみたい)

Post by honey »

The video reminds me in some ways of the Koi wa Magnet MV, probably because of the similar vintage aesthetic/elements. I also love the bit of DnB action throughout the song also. TB is such a good group lol
Post Reply