[2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
I really like Utakata, it's giving me AKB vibes though (just an observation). I do wish that with the music video they had taken it one step further and had the girls in either 70's or 80's clothes during the scenes where they were just dancing around for fun. It would have been cheap to do as well (unless they wanted to buy everything new..).
Unfortunately this single as a whole is pretty weak compared to the singles that the rest of H!P has been putting out (with the exception of JJ). I think MM is kind of stuck right now. They're letting the formation dance thing go and they lost their center, who the original reason for a more dance based group. 12th gen hasn't been strong enough to really contribute anything to the group. I think that why MM feels so weak to me. They don't know what direction to push them in now music wise...and it shows. I think the lack of Tsunku has hit MM the hardest since it always his "daughter".
Unfortunately this single as a whole is pretty weak compared to the singles that the rest of H!P has been putting out (with the exception of JJ). I think MM is kind of stuck right now. They're letting the formation dance thing go and they lost their center, who the original reason for a more dance based group. 12th gen hasn't been strong enough to really contribute anything to the group. I think that why MM feels so weak to me. They don't know what direction to push them in now music wise...and it shows. I think the lack of Tsunku has hit MM the hardest since it always his "daughter".
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
At least Zukki gets a dialogue and looks legitimately happy. This song is definitely going on my dance playlist though <3
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
This is probably the best song this single. The girls seemed like they were having a lot of fun in the MV and I like the goofiness of it. I'm glad Zukki got a better song to shine in.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Saturday Night is definitely the best song on the single. It's the only one where everything fits together smoothly and all the parts sound like they belong to the same song. And it's a legitimately really good disco track.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
This song makes me so happy. :D
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
There's so many cute and nice things in there, I'm really happy.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
This was 10x better than the H!S version shown. Idk if it's enough to save the entire single for me, but it's an MV I'll make sure to watch from here on out. It won't be forgotten =3
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Handshake info, as provided by Akane-chin (Lolol):
Here.
Kudou and Akane had a really funny bit going. Also, Haga reminds me so much of Sayumi, lol.
Those with a * got the LUCKY CHANCE/LUCKY SHOT, and will visit 4 places instead of 3.
Here.
Kudou and Akane had a really funny bit going. Also, Haga reminds me so much of Sayumi, lol.
Those with a * got the LUCKY CHANCE/LUCKY SHOT, and will visit 4 places instead of 3.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
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This was 10x better than the H!S version shown. Idk if it's enough to save the entire single for me, but it's an MV I'll make sure to watch from here on out. It won't be forgotten =3
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
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I think that's just more her having an awkward face. She needs to find her good faces and stick to them lol.
This was 10x better than the H!S version shown. Idk if it's enough to save the entire single for me, but it's an MV I'll make sure to watch from here on out. It won't be forgotten =3
Ayumi's little running on "tomaranai!" was so cute and funny, too. She's so good at that humor, glad they included it.
The only nitpick I have is Nonaka's facial expressions... I know she wants to be "stoic like Sayashi". But come on Q_Q.
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I think that's just more her having an awkward face. She needs to find her good faces and stick to them lol.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2016-05-10/
82k sold on 1st day.
Hey!Say!Jump sold 145k so they pretty much already secured their spot but at least MM secured their 2nd place since 3rd only sold 20k.
82k sold on 1st day.
Hey!Say!Jump sold 145k so they pretty much already secured their spot but at least MM secured their 2nd place since 3rd only sold 20k.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
82k is lower than I expected it to get but it'll probably be past 100k eventually.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Again, huh. Well, they also have the handshake events starting this weekend.
Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
[quote="JPope"]
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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So their expectations were as low as ours.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
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So their expectations were as low as ours.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="197353" data-time="1462991593"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>
No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.
First day is low, but it's higher than TokiSora and Seishun's first days. And Utakata alone is still better than the snooze fest 'we demand to be taken seriously' nonsense that was the last single.
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>
No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.
First day is low, but it's higher than TokiSora and Seishun's first days. And Utakata alone is still better than the snooze fest 'we demand to be taken seriously' nonsense that was the last single.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
For comparison, first days for...
Utakata: 82k
Tsumetai: 124k
Oh my wish: 114k
Seishun Kozou: 78k
TIKI BUN: 103k
Tsumetai (grad single) to Utakata (w/o ace): 42k drop
TIKI BUN (grad single) to Seishun Kozou (w/o leader + new members): 25k drop
Utakata: 82k
Tsumetai: 124k
Oh my wish: 114k
Seishun Kozou: 78k
TIKI BUN: 103k
Tsumetai (grad single) to Utakata (w/o ace): 42k drop
TIKI BUN (grad single) to Seishun Kozou (w/o leader + new members): 25k drop
Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
[quote="Anderei"]
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="197353" data-time="1462991593">
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>
No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.[/quote]
It was a joke.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Anderei" data-cid="197338" data-time="1462978121">
Apparently it's actually nearly sold out everywhere so it sounds like they're having stock issues.
</blockquote>
So their expectations were as low as ours.</blockquote>
No, it's more like that this is a recurring issue with H!P singles. They have stock issues all the time.[/quote]
It was a joke.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Stayed at 2 with 9,921 copies. Better second day than expected.
HSJ sold a whopping 52k copies today wtf.
HSJ sold a whopping 52k copies today wtf.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
OriconNews coverage of the release event... Idk if it's just the recording but their live sounds.... kinda bad, imo.
Afterwards Kanon talks about her dieting, hopes for future relationships and the members share what they like about her.
Afterwards Kanon talks about her dieting, hopes for future relationships and the members share what they like about her.
Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Yeah, someone's yelling out their lines. I thought this was a problem with MaiDigi's recording but it was the same with the performance on Buzz Rhythm so...
Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Dropped to 3 today with 3,098.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
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Yeah, someone's yelling out their lines. I thought this was a problem with MaiDigi's recording but it was the same with the performance on Buzz Rhythm so...
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It's Sato! I'm always surprised as to how you guys never notice it is her whenever there is a super screechy voice fucking up the whole performance or "that one solo line that sounds terrible in every radio rip"
Yeah, someone's yelling out their lines. I thought this was a problem with MaiDigi's recording but it was the same with the performance on Buzz Rhythm so...
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It's Sato! I'm always surprised as to how you guys never notice it is her whenever there is a super screechy voice fucking up the whole performance or "that one solo line that sounds terrible in every radio rip"
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
I'm pretty sure half the group is yelling their lines. I think I can hear some screeching from Zukki, too.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Yes to both. I didn't want to call out someone
I guess the only ones who aren't shouting are Mizuki (she seemed to have something down her throat though? Her voice sounded pretty weak) and Haruna (her voice is too weak in general).
I guess the only ones who aren't shouting are Mizuki (she seemed to have something down her throat though? Her voice sounded pretty weak) and Haruna (her voice is too weak in general).
Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Up to #1 with 11,516 copies.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Oricon rank is #2 with 114k.
Billboard Japan is reporting 145k.
Billboard Japan is reporting 145k.
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Why is there a big difference ?
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Re: [2016.05.11] Morning Musume '16 - Tokyo to iu Katasumi/The Vision/Utakata Saturday Night
Billboard includes digital and this single fared better in that category than usual.
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